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moonliner
Intermediate Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 196
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Mica,

Thanks for posting. The original tail piece only lasted about a year (probably less). This pick is much later, after the tail piece was neutered.
The pic on the long history page is stunning. It looks like the bass was just finished. That's really what I would love this bass to look like! Any chance of a better resolution version of that pic?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8055
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 6:09 pm:   Edit Post

Let me look around...
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1493
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 6:26 pm:   Edit Post

This is from the 2000 Alembic catalogue:

edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1660
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post

The more information we get, the more questions arise: the pickup in this picture looks interesting: skinnier than the ones I'm used to seeing on this bass!
moonliner
Intermediate Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 197
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post

I think it had the trapezoid shaped ones in it for a minute.
moonliner
Intermediate Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 198
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2013 - 1:38 am:   Edit Post

If it's not too late, I'd like to change the inlays to golden mother of pearl ovals (no silver binding). I think it will work better with the overall warm, earthy colour tone of the woods and hardware.

I hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8070
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2013 - 1:26 am:   Edit Post

I haven't found the image I was looking for yet, Keith. Mom said you called today. Sorry, I was home with a nasty cold, and I'm not sure if I'll be in tomorrow.

Golden MOP ovals without the silver will look very earthy and lovely. I'll make the change when I'm in next. It's not too late until the frets are in :-)
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1673
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post

There's a good shot of the original pickups and tailpiece here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8145553@N06/3827363690/sizes/l/in/photostream/

[moderator's edit: edited per request of original poster]

(Message edited by davehouck on December 08, 2013)
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 201
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 2:15 am:   Edit Post

Oh my goodness! That is BEAUTIFUL!!!!
That's it.... I won't be able to sleep....
Thank you for sharing Edwin!

Oh my.....
mtjam
Intermediate Member
Username: mtjam

Post Number: 114
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post

Cool Phil picture! I've never seen that one before.

Can't wait to see how your Starfire turns out.
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 206
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 1:27 am:   Edit Post

How's it going?
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 209
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 1:20 am:   Edit Post

Any news on this project?
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 210
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post

Well, the bass is done…. Alembic has worked their magic, and the bass is all I dreamed..


well.. mostly….


I guess I should have been a bit more careful when I gave them the measurements written on that bar napkin….



minisf
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3200
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 2:17 am:   Edit Post

New meaning to the terminology ; Piccolo Bass ______:-)
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1505
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 6:47 am:   Edit Post

If you ever lower it on the stage, make sure you fix the choreography to keep the dwarfs clear :-)
neyman
Intermediate Member
Username: neyman

Post Number: 132
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post

I, for one, welcome our feline overlords
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1700
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post

Ha! I saw that bass online and thought about getting one. Nice. Love the stand!

(Message edited by edwin on January 24, 2014)
5a_quilt_top
Advanced Member
Username: 5a_quilt_top

Post Number: 241
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post

It's obviously the "cat's meow"...

That having been said - how 'bout some full-size pix (and a performance review) of the finished product?

I saw it in progress when I visited the mothership last August, so I'm curious to see the end result!

And - we all know what happens when there's too much curiosity...
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1701
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post

I think this was some humor to deflect the fact that progress has been a bit slow.
5a_quilt_top
Advanced Member
Username: 5a_quilt_top

Post Number: 243
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2014 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post

Ooops...my mistake.

I thought some clever Photoshop "magic" had been employed to create the image.

I just have one more question:

Will you be using it to play "Stonehenge" tonight?
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 212
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2014 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post

I was amazed when I saw this online and had to have one. I knew I was obsessed with Phil's bass, but I didn't think there were enough people out there that liked it enough to warrent building and selling a miniature of it.
The detail is pretty amazing.... and my cat Digory was rather interested in it, for a cat anyway.
So for now it's the little one.... but I can tell the special, regulation size is coming 'round the bend!
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 218
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8137
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post

Like I said (was it email or phone?), the fingerboard is now off and if you are brave, you can see under the hood...

assembly

assembly

assembly

assembly

assembly
Peghead should get glued up next week. More to come.


I sent a scrap tailpiece to you. Let me know how that project works out. And you wanted some numbers, so here they are:

##################################################
id = moonliner
scale length = 30.75
string dia. 1=.045 2=.065 3=.080 4=.105

at nut end:
fingerboard width = 1.5
treble edge allowance = .15
bass edge allowance = .15
string center 1 to 2 = 0.375
string center 2 to 3 = 0.375
string center 3 to 4 = 0.375
spacing between 1 and 2 = 0.32
spacing between 2 and 3 = 0.3025
spacing between 3 and 4 = 0.2825

at bridge end:
treble edge allowance = .15
bass edge allowance = .15
string center 1 to 2 = 0.675
string center 2 to 3 = 0.6925
string center 3 to 4 = 0.7125
spacing between 1 and 2 = .62
spacing between 2 and 3 = .62
spacing between 3 and 4 = .62
string edge to edge = 2.155
(projected) fingerboard width at bridge = 2.455

fingerboard width at nut = 1.5
fingerboard width at 24th fret = 2.21625
fingerboard width at 25th fret = 2.22965000784725
fingerboard length = 23.4939662212595
##################################################

Of course, your bass only has 21 frets, and this is ever so gently wider than the original with a touch of fingerboard flaring like we discussed.
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 219
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Mica, that's great to see it on the bench getting worked over! I can't express how great that makes me feel!
Thanks so much!
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 220
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2014 - 2:55 am:   Edit Post

If the flare to make the neck wider is at all an issue, I'm prepared to let it go. 1.5" on the width is fine. I want it to feel natural in my hands.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8151
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post

assembly

assembly
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 224
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 1:23 am:   Edit Post

Hey Mica,

That's very exciting, thank you so much for the pictures! It's so great to see progress, thank you!
Did the tuner holes get moved like we talked about? Specifically the D and A?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8153
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 8:37 am:   Edit Post

Yes, the pattern is very close to a square. You should be able to tell they are much lower than our usual position.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 8154
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 8:44 am:   Edit Post

And the D and A are closer to the center.
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 225
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post

Sweet, you rule!
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 226
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post

Hello, wondering if any more work has been done. Thanks.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1205
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2014 - 1:52 am:   Edit Post

"The waiting is the hardest part!" (Tom Petty)

Keith, someone needs to start a support group for those of us waiting for our custom builds to be completed!

Hey oddmetersam, can you make us some T shirts that say "I survived the Alembic build process!" on the front & "Perfection realized" on the back? LOL!
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3971
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2014 - 2:51 pm:   Edit Post

Rusty it should say on the front.
Perfection cannot be rushed.
On the back.
I waited for my custom Alembic to be built.
Jazzyvee
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1206
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2014 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post

I would buy that shirt too Jazzyvee!
oddmetersam
Advanced Member
Username: oddmetersam

Post Number: 349
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 1:36 am:   Edit Post

You guys are too funny! And I'm flattered.

Two quick points, though:

1) I would specifically ask permission before using Alembic's logo.

2) Redbubble, the print-on-demand company I use, doesn't currently support two-sided printing on shirts. It appears that Zazzle or Cafepress may and if so, I'm sure Redbubble will be forced to follow suit. Most brick and mortar establishments require a minimum order, which means knowing sizes and colors in advance. The print-on-demand business model is just the opposite; they can do one-offs regardless of style, size or color. And there are NO up-front costs, being stuck with unsold inventory, etc. And you don't have to worry about sales tax or shipping and handling. That's all included in what the customer pays when they order online. Meanwhile, you set your profit margin per shirt above and beyond a set price that the POD company has for each piece. I never have to physically touch the product. I merely upload my designs and then basically set and forget while I work on the next piece. Frankly, I highly recommend this for every one.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1208
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 2:09 am:   Edit Post

Sam, I used Vistaprint for the Texas Gathering shirts. They don't have a minimum order & can do front & back designs. They were very inexpensive too. The only problem I had was the availability of sizes. They only went up to a 2X I believe.
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 227
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 2:40 am:   Edit Post

slightly awkward
oddmetersam
Advanced Member
Username: oddmetersam

Post Number: 350
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 2:56 am:   Edit Post

Agreed, Keith. This thread is supposed to be about your incredible bass! Rusty, et al, we can start a thread in the Miscellaneous section and return this one to its regularly scheduled programming....

Sorry, Keith!
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1209
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 3:23 am:   Edit Post

Sorry Keith, I was just trying to lighten your spirits over the long wait we sometimes have to endure while waiting to see progress on our custom builds. I didn't mean to hijack your thread. In Alembic's defense, I just got an email from Mica at 2:12am this morning & she was working on artwork for an inlay for my Europa, so they are constantly working on our builds, we just don't always see it.
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 228
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post

It's all good. :-)
The awkward part was it felt like there was a club being formed (complete with T Shirts) to voice dissatisfaction with Alembic. While we can all identify with the frustration of waiting, I didn't want it to appear like there was any ganging up going on.
That said, any pictures of progress would be so extremely appreciated and wonderful!
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1746
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 5:44 pm:   Edit Post

Just to turn the dissatisfaction on its head, the flip side is that we have to wait for the craftspeople to get it just exactly perfect, to borrow a phrase. I don't think there is any ganging up happening. We all know the results!
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 229
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post

What he said!

(again I'd like to stress APPARENT dissatisfaction and ganging up)

(Message edited by Moonliner on April 22, 2014)

(Message edited by Moonliner on April 22, 2014)
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1210
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 8:23 pm:   Edit Post

Keith, my T shirt suggestion was very tongue in cheek! I was making a joke, not in any way dissing Alembic! Every single build record I have read, & they were many while I was researching my build, to a man, every one of them said that the end result was more than worth the wait! I think we all chose Alembic to build our dream basses & guitars because we know that they will accept nothing less than perfection for themselves & for their customers. The dealer I am going through told me early in my discussion of my build, before I even put the deposit down that there is normal time, & their is Alembic time, & that I shouldn't expect them to be the same, but that the end result would be nothing short of amazing & oh so worth the wait! So I understand the wait & while it may be frustrating at times, I know that the end absolutely justifies the means! So while the "wait" is indeed the hardest part, I have come to realize that even though Alembic is building my bass exclusively & specifically for me, I am not the only customer they have. There are a lot more "me's" out there who are also waiting for the pristine perfection that can only come from Alembic. We all have to understand that the wait doesn't mean they aren't working on our instruments, it just means their may not be any progress worthy of showing at the moment, but progress is still happening. I think the wait will make us love & appreciate our instruments that much more when we get them, so in that respect, the wait is a good thing!
moonliner
Advanced Member
Username: moonliner

Post Number: 230
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 2:16 am:   Edit Post

Hi Rusty
I know it was a joke, but it seemed to be gathering momentum rather fast and taking on a life of its own.
This is not my first build so I am familiar with waiting and the quality that comes at the end. Thanks for trying to be supportive.

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