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fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 895
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post

Hi folks,

There seems to be many versions of the “tongue” between the headstock and neck.
Narrow versionse and wider versions with an almost flat bottom.

It looks like Jason had the "wide flat bottom" version:



This is what I mean with the narrow version:



Can you re-create the Jason version?


For tuner alignment: Please place the tuners inline with the headstock, like on my Elan:

(not inline with the neck like the fretless)

Also I like to have the high gloss finish on the back (fretless has the satin finish, all others have high gloss necks)

Thanx a lot for building me this monster
blackelan
Intermediate Member
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 102
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post

Mica or Susan can you please note this for my headstock as well on my Elan order.

Flip the reason I think there was variation in headstocks is because they went to CNC later so these were all hand carved? Maybe I am wrong.
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 330
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post

"Flip the reason I think there was variation in headstocks is because they went to CNC later so these were all hand carved? Maybe I am wrong."

You are in fact wrong.

The "narrow version" above is a volute which is/was standard on the set neck Alembics. The "wide flat bottom" version is the standard multiple wood laminates that all neck through Alembics get. They both do the same thing: add strength to the headstock scarf joint.
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 928
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post

I'm pretty sure it's done by hand ;-)
Set necks have a volute and no laminates on the back of the headstock (unless custom ordered otherwise)
The shape of the "tongue" is determined by the headstock, profile of the neck and the amount of beers (or any other beverage) the carver had the night before I think...

@ Mica: This bass is not a replica, more a tribute to one of my favourite Alembics. I'm fine with whatever "tongue" your carver(s) can come up with ;-)

I'm pretty firm on:

Tuner alignment
High gloss finish on the back of the neck
Logo and Script above the nut
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6251
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post

The neck is hand carved. The variation arises primarily from the width of the nut. In Jason's bass, the neck is a classic taper, so the nut is wider than the second example with the comfort taper. The individuality of the carver is also reflected in the final shape.

There are no volutes pictured on this page so far. Look at the back of an Epic to see the volute version (FYI these are also handcarved).

Jason's neck in the first picture actually looks a little funky to me - like the "tongue" is lower on the beck of the neck usual - but maybe it's just the angle of the image.

No prob on the tuner alignment, high gloss finish on the back of neck (though note Jason's were satin) and the placement of the logo and script.
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 930
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 6:16 pm:   Edit Post

Thanx!
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 944
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 5:43 am:   Edit Post

I found this pic of an Essence I think it's about the same shape as on Jason's bass:



If possible, I'd like to see this "tongue" style recreated ;-)
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 978
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 4:14 am:   Edit Post

For th black/blank transition: Can you lower the edge of the black in comparison to Marcus' bass?

Here's a pic:



Green pity excuse for an arrow points where I like to have the border.

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