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mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1255
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

I know you're anxious to see some progress on your bass, so I figure we better start at the start:

ken's top lam

Since it's the end of the day and everyone else is gone, I can't tell which of the necks in the press is yours, but I know one of them is. I'll add some more pics this weekend after my regular Friday rounds.
kenbass4
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Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Mica!!

Yeah, I was almost forgetting what that piece looked like. I'll try to stop pestering about progress...I wouldn't want to take you away from getting it done. :-)
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 759
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 6:58 am:   Edit Post

Oh-o ...here I ago again.
Am I the only one who sees the head of an eagle "front view" in that wood?
Mmmm "the Eagle" ...good name for a Rogue with this wood.
Gongrats & patience brother.

Paul
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 135
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 7:08 am:   Edit Post

Paul,
yes it is clearly viewable!
The eagle has landed! Great piece of wood!

Oliver
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post

Well, I DO need to start thinking of a name for the new baby... What the club doesn't know yet (changes to secretive, whispererd tone) is that I have opted for my initials on the 12th fret. But the initials aren't standard English letters...they're Elven Tengwar Runes. I've been a Tolkein fan LONG before it was "cool" to be one. So I figure a proper Elvish name: Buckeye Burl looks almost stone-like, so I thought Gonderin, or "Stone-wood". However, now with your suggestions, maybe Thorondol, or "Eagle Head"

Decisions, decisions...
zappahead
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Username: zappahead

Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe you should name it after those eagles (if there is a proper name in the books, I cannot remember for the life of me) that appear in Return of the King? I dont have the book in front me since Im at work, but that might be a cool name. BTW, I like the idea to use the runes for your initials, nice conversation starter (as if you will need a conversation starter other than pulling this bass out of its case).
kenbass4
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Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post

Actually, that would be Gwaihir, the same eagle that rescued Gandalf from Orthanc, and Bilbo and the dwarves in the Hobbit. Gwaihir means "Wind Lord", btw...

Yeah, the runes look really cool. When I was up at Alembic, I brought my "Languages of Middle-Earth" book with me. Susan grabbed some copies of the runes, so I guess we'll see how she makes them look...although how could they be anything but perfect anyway, right?
groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 135
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 4:55 am:   Edit Post

Runes...too cool, Tolkien was a particular bugger. Keeping with the Middle-earth theme, how about "Orome" - Lord of the Forest, a High Valar.

BTW Thorondol would be apropos.
bigbadbill
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Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post

Oh joy!!! Alembics AND Tolkien!! I always thought they went together so well!! Beat you to the elvish runes though. Sorry! I'm afraid I'm a massive Tolkien fan too, for 30 years now! My Sei bass has an elvish S rune (and a mirrored S rune facing it)at the 12th fret; interestingly its also got a buckeye burl top and looks very elvish!If I ever get the camera up and running I'll post a picture, together with my Alembic. Actually by then there'll hopefully be my ordered Triple Omega custom to put on as well....namewise how about "Thorondor" the greatest of the Eagles of Manwe? All I can say is you've got great taste in both basses AND books! BTW, my surname actually means "elf ruler", no really!!!

All the best
Shaun

I recently showed a picture of a Triple Omega to a friend to show him what I was getting; he said "it looks like an axe". Given the above thread, maybe he was onto something....
kenbass4
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Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post

I see there are a few versed in the ways of Arda here...

Well, I think it would be in bad taste to name the bass after one of the Valar (or one of the Valar's eagles) so I'll sit on the name for awhile until we approach the birth date. Where else can one satisfy multiple obsessions besides the Alembic Club?

(BTW, are your runes Feanorian or Sindarin?)
groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 136
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post

Wouldn't dare to besmirch the Valar, maybe there is a form of Orome that means "diminutive" or "child of"...? My thought was that it's such a magnificent piece of wood that 'lord of the forest' didn't seem too out of place. can't wait to see this one take flight.

Mike
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 767
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post

"Thoronder" ...
great name!
Has something of thunder!?!?!
Still it makes ssense with the "eagle vision" if you know the story. That's th efunny part: there will always be a story to tell.
Now ...If you know that Tolkien started the whole thing ...by inventing stories to his children.
Believ me ...there will always be a story to tell, every man, every player, every bass, ...

Paul the bad one
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 3:20 pm:   Edit Post

Actually, the languages started first, then he woked them INTO the stories for his kids...

Yes, there is ALWAYS a story to tell...some of them are even true...

:-)
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Mica!!

Since we're already discussing names for my baby, what stage of development is it at?
bigbadbill
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Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post

kenbass...

Feanorian; "silme"(Tengwa 29). Luckily no one has yet said "hey, that bass clef's upside down"!:-)Sorry I'm a bit late answering but was mixing all last night; plus we're a bit out of sync timewise in the UK! I think you're probably right about the name being in bad taste actually...besides, wouldn't want to get struck by lightning or anything (you never know!). Beautiful wood! Would've liked the buckeye for my Triple O, but unfortunately something had to give budget-wise... best of luck with the project, its sounding really cool. I'll be watching with great interest.BTW, I'm sure the inlays will be fantastic; nobody does 'em quite like Alembic!

All the best

Shaun
valvil
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Username: valvil

Post Number: 274
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 3:24 pm:   Edit Post

Hello Ken,

your neck had been made, next up are the body and the top laminate.

Valentino
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post

Shaun - Yeah, I'm sure people will be wondering why I have a backward "p" and strange "b". I thought about translating my name into elvish, then using those runes, but...I'd rather spend time writing and recording music.

Valentino - Thanks! The next part should look really cool during construction. Have a great Thanksgiving, and take a few extra units before dinner. (advice from one diabetic to another)

Best holiday wishes,
Ken
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1284
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

Hope you don't mind, Ken:

ken's neck

Mom just had to have your neck made with Purpleheart laminates. This pic is from 11-29, I saw the neck today and it's all decorated now with the veneers on the front and back. Looks sweet!
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 7:37 pm:   Edit Post

Working on Thanksgiving Weekend I see...

Sonically the purpleheart probably won't be a huge advantage for my style of playing, but I have to agree with your mother (again) on the appearance. You know, if you keep rewarding my pestering like this, I'm going to really become unbearable! :-) (that'll be tomorrow when you post the pics of the neck veneers, right??...)
palembic
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Username: palembic

Post Number: 792
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 3:44 am:   Edit Post

I know Tolkien and read The Ring but you guys are talking about a world I don't know. Now that's no problem, it's even very good as long as someone want to explain what those languages are? I thought they were invented (NB WITH grammar structure etc...) or roughly based on old celtic dialects??
I didn't saw any runes? Do I miss a pictures?

BTW: I wear a small chain around my neck with 3 things peding on it: an old figure of two small kids holding each othetr symbolising Gemini (my astrological sign), an authentic silver ALEMBIC LOGO (where that stands for: take a peep at the Alembic site), and the CEN rune: standing for "creativity and consistency".

Paul the bad one

Mmmm ...maybe I should be embarassed now!
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post

Paul TBO-


If you just read the story, you just get hints of the language throughout the story. But if you look in the appendicies of Return of the King, there's a whole bunch of information, both back story (Aragorn & Arwen, the fall of Numenor, etc.) and the languages, including tables showing the various runes. I found the stuff in there to be almost as good as the story itself!

Happy reading!
Ken (The elvish one??)
groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 139
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post

Paul,

As fanstastic as the ring trilogy + hobbit are, The Silmarillion and other tales contain more than enough history to overdose the most rabid/avid Tolkien junkie. Tolkien was fascinated by ancient languages and folklore: Scandinavian, Germanic, Saxon, and Celtic, just to name a few. Consider that he began inventing languages with his cousin so they could play secret games as young children.
The languages hinted at in the above posts are the two most prevelant and ancient elven languages. Tolkien was a nut, and I for one, am thankful.

groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 140
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post

Ken,

Sorry, I really checked in to see how your bass was coming along and couldn't resist.

Mike
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

Mike,

No problem! It's good to run across other Tolkien fans, especially here among the Alembians. I figured The Silmarillion would be a bit heavy for most people, and most of the info on languages is in the appendicies in ROTK.

Ken TEO
bracheen
Junior
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 46
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post

Hey, a side thread that isn't about beer! That's gotta be a first. How do you say "home brew" in elvish? I'm a Robert Jordan fan myself.

Sam
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1290
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 7:27 pm:   Edit Post

Wow, Ken, how'd ya know you'd be gettin gmore pics today?

peg1

peg2

body trc
The continuous wood truss rod cover was cut out today. I don't think the "Eagle" will be as evident when the pickups are cut.
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,

I guess I'm just psycic...or was that psychotic, I keep getting those confused

I wasn't sure that the eagle was going to make it through the pickup cutouts, and really that's ok. The color and pattern of the wood is so striking, I don't think not having a specific image in the wood will be an issue.

(BTW, we have a siamese mix kitten that has claimed me as her "person" with coloring very close to this wood. She's making it very hard for me to type this...I think she's jealous!)
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post

Sam,

Maryulda is about as close as I can get to "Home Brew". (Elves were strictly wine drinkers) The literal translation is Home Draught.

I sense another forum forming here: Elvish 101
groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 141
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post

Wow, explosive!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1356
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post

It's now in the carving department:

ken's in carving

I had a couple of other pics, but during the holi-daze I get even more scattered than ususal.

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