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mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1572
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post

Someday this vermilion will be covered in black spectraflare paint:
body of the nightbass

Neptune's trident will be featured on the bass as well
line art

The inlay is to be in sterling silver:
mock up
Placement is under review.
dnburgess
Advanced Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 227
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

The glyph looks nice - on the fingerboard is agreed - just need to consider position.

Alembic logo - silver, surface mounted with shell inlay on headstock. Just MOP inlay rather than MOP+Paua might suit the overall black + silver theme better. What do you think?

Regarding orientation of the glyph and logo - it might look a bit weird if they are oriented differently - so I think they should be either both vertical or both horizontal (when the instrument is upright in stand). Mounting the logo horizontally under the strings on an Orion peghead should work well. Views?
waggaboy
Junior
Username: waggaboy

Post Number: 28
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post

Nice minimalism David :-) What does spectraflare paint look like?

Sean.
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 230
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post

The design reference for the nightbass was "a moonlit night". The colour scheme is black and silver (as an approximation to mithril).

Susan wouldn't settle for a regular opaque finish, and discovered Spectraflair. To quote the manufacturer:

"SpectraFlair pigment is a new light diffractive colorant manufactured by Flex Products Inc. that uses the company's light manipulating Color by Physics technology. By controlling the physical dimensions and surface microstructure, SpectraFlair pigment Silver 1400 generates the appearance of multiple, bright rainbow producing prisms moving over a liquid silver color. The pigment has a pleasing, elegant and dramatic visual appeal that is unique, durable, and easy to incorporate...Coatings containing SpectraFlair enhance the contours of 3-dimensional objects and create spectacular visual effects."

Maybe Susan will share her Spectraflair field trip experience with the club.

palembic
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Username: palembic

Post Number: 1279
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post

"Wooooo ...Far out man
waggaboy
Junior
Username: waggaboy

Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 2:06 am:   Edit Post

OK, expectations are high -- I expect an animated GIF of a Bass changing colour sometime soon!!!

I am already imagining the bass-player specific stage lighting rig that will be required to do this paint justice!!!
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 231
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post

As far as I am aware, this will be the first time SpectraFlair has been used on a musical instrument.
effclef
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Username: effclef

Post Number: 123
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 5:35 am:   Edit Post

dnburgess - I wonder if that paint is a variation on the chrome illusion one that Bass Northwest has had for sale for months and months:

Custom Contoured Blue Steel Illusion

The retail is $5350 but they're having an exotic bass sale, so who knows, it may be quite reasonable. Essence electronics, weird shape, possibly trying to be a Fodera? If you take a look at their pictures on the site, the body has very little contour carving. Unique!

EffClef
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 234
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 6:00 am:   Edit Post

Chromalusion is a Dupont paint system that has been an option on Alembic pricelists for a while. My understanding is that Chromalusion allows colour shifting between up to six different colours - whereas SpectraFlair doesn't shift colours. Rather it diffracts light to produce rainbow type effects, generating a theoretically infinite number of colours.

SpectraFlair is usually applied to silver backgrounds, to maximise the rainbow effects. Applying it to black should produce a fair more subtle effect. (To the extent that a black and silver Rogue could ever be called subtle.)

David B.
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 197
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 6:21 am:   Edit Post

Once I had a Korean built Yamaha BB350F in pearly white. Tacky colour, but it had a similar effect to the Chromalusion - streaks of green and red would stand out depending on the lighting. I'm guessing the Alembic finishes are based on a better product, but anyway it's an acquired taste.
keavin
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Username: keavin

Post Number: 255
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

man id love to have that same color paint one on a series I,however ive seen a series I before with a pearl white paint on it, the bass player in the group 'mothers finest'(back in the 80s)
palembic
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Username: palembic

Post Number: 1281
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post

IFF (!!!!!!) I'm well informed there was always been a tradition to use car -laquer paints on guitars. Fender used car-laquer for it's first opaque coloured guitars and you bet when Cadillac or Chevrolet or Buick had a new colour hop ...you could track it in Fender (custom) colours.
Now "Dupont" highly specialises in car-laquers. I think the white on the Yamaha is the same that is/was very popular on cars. White on first sight but changing colour depending the angle.

PTBO
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 235
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 3:46 am:   Edit Post

Susan, I think chrome tuners and straplocks will look better than black. What do you think?
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 236
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 3:49 am:   Edit Post

Also no fingerboard inlays (other than neptune glyph). I think fifth fret looks best for the inlay.
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 200
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 3:57 am:   Edit Post

It would be nice to see what nickel would look like on that, it's less distracting than chrome.

Second thought: the hardware finish should not outshine the sterling inlay. The trident in the picture looks more like pewter than like the sterling hardware on the 25th Anniversary model - but I'm guessing it's a draft and not a picture of the real thing.

Trident = Maserati?

(Message edited by Adriaan on April 14, 2004)
dnburgess
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Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 237
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 4:13 am:   Edit Post

I have already specified nickel hardware. I thought that didn't include the tuners or straplocks for which the only options that would work appeared to be chrome or black. Maybe I had it wrong?
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1732
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post

Thought you'd like to see that your peghead shape was changed:

new peghead

It's already back in spray - this pic was after rough shaping.
dnburgess
Advanced Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 280
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:44 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks - no one will ever know.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1740
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post

It'll be our little secret.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1963
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post

I heard you wanted to see some pictures of the finished Nightbass:
nightbass

The inlay turned out very nice:
neptune's trident

Impossible to capture the spectraflare paint in a photo. I'll try again when we've got a sunny day and see if that fares any better.
jeff
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Username: jeff

Post Number: 60
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post

Message below - sorry.

(Message edited by Jeff on October 01, 2004)
jeff
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Username: jeff

Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post

Wow! The bass has a Darth Vaderish quality to it. It is beautiful, evil and cool, all at the same time.
basstard
Intermediate Member
Username: basstard

Post Number: 114
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post

An amazingly beautiful bass. Definitely one of the best looking colour-finished Alembics I've ever seen. It's got a gothic vibe to it... something I like A LOT.

And are the strings DR Black Beauties by any chance? A friend of mine has put them on his Jazz Deluxe lately, and boy are they good!
dnburgess
Advanced Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 322
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks - I wanted an instrument that would appeal to rockers who might not appreciate the traditional "organic" Alembic vibe.

Yes - those are Black Beauties - I look forward to trying them.

David B.
kmh364
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Username: kmh364

Post Number: 555
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post

That'll be a wonder down under, Mate! Good on ya.
Just in time for summer as well.

Cheers,

Kevin
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 899
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post

David; it is indeed a very nice looking bass!
waggaboy
Member
Username: waggaboy

Post Number: 62
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post

Well done David!! There is more than a little Clark Kent in you... Besides the psycho paint you found black strings -- something else I never knew existed.

Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh next time I'm up in Sydney.

Peace,
Sean.
basstard
Intermediate Member
Username: basstard

Post Number: 116
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post

I appreciate BOTH traditional "organic" Alembic vibe AND your new gothic beauty!
dnburgess
Advanced Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 343
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post

I have rechristened the Nightbass as the Black Rogue. It arrived on Monday.

My wife, who has now seen many Alembics, promptly stated it was the most beautiful she has seen.

The overall effect is much better than the photos. The spectraflair finish and nickel hardware are superb.

It is definitely warmer sounding than any other Alembics that I have played - which was the intended effect. Don't know how much of this is due to the vermillion body vs the DR Black Beauties. I'll experiment with strings in due course.

A public thank you to the folk at Santa Rosa.

David B.

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