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smuprof
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 5:08 pm:   Edit Post

I thought I'd get the thread started. Olie found out Christian was coming from Germany to pick up his new Alembic (the featured custom from May 2003 - Seismic Bass) from a collector in Ft. Worth and proposed a Texas welcome.

Well, any excuse to get together! Olie, Wayne, Christian, Mike, myself, and Pete the drummer got together for the second Dallas Alembic jam. Austin Brown joined us to add a little six string.

As before, everyone had a blast. Pics and possibly some audio to follow!

PS - We're making plans for late summer/fall for the next one, so let me know if you want to attend.
speicky
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post

Great, John,

I expected you to start the thread, but I did not expect it to appear that fast...

It is just breathtakingly coooool here in the DFW area (except for the weather, LOL). It felt like a family get together, although I only knew some guys through email conversations... Mike, you were right, I was very quiet this afternoon, but/because I was really enjoying this jam session.

Please let me be the first banging the beerbottle on the table, yelling... PICS, PICS, PICS ! ...oh, I took some pics with my camera, but cannot upload. I am using a public PC right now.

thanks everyone,

your Christian
wayne
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post

Christian - I'm glad you've enjoyed a big ol' Texas HOWDY! (including a run-of-the-mill 70 mph North Texas spring thunderstorm). :-D

It was a pleasure once again gentlemen. The jammin' in between made the load-in and load-out well worth the trip.

BTW - I don't think Olie's lost a single lick from his recent mishap.....

C-Ya..............wayne
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1382
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post

Well here are few pix that I took. I didn't get very many photos. I was too busy drooling over Waynes fretless.

And by the way Christians new Seismic bass is SMOKIN'. It is one sweet axe. I love the size of it and the Zebra wood is WAY cool.

All in all it was a great time for all I do believe. I'm ready anytime you guys are.

It's really great to see and hear so much humble talent in one place. No egos at all. You guys are the best.


lbpesq
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Post Number: 2422
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post

Very handsome family portrait. Sounds like you guys had a lot of fun.

Bil, tgo
jorge_s
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry I couldn't make this time guys. I am looking forward to the 3rd one though. Hopefully Olie and I (and perhaps someone else)will have some new axes to share by then. I am looking forward to seeing those inlays Olie.
groovelines
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Post Number: 477
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post

[double post]

(Message edited by groovelines on June 03, 2007)
groovelines
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Post Number: 478
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post

All,

Once again another great time, a fantastic way ot spend an afernoon. And a word of caution to anyone thinkging about picking up an Alembic fretless: Unless you're really serious about it, don't play one, cuz then you will be. ;)

Jorge,

Stay tuned, another get together is in the brainstorming stages.

Christian,

Es war fantastisch, Sie in der Person schließlich zu treffen. Ich hoffe, daß Ihr Aufenthalt und zu Ihrem Mögen eventful war. Ich bleibe in der Note, besonders wenn eine Reise zu Europa verwirklicht.

das ganzes beste zu Ihnen und zu Ihrer Familie,
Mike
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1385
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 6:16 pm:   Edit Post

This one was kind of last minute Jorge but the next one is already in the talking phase and we'll have plenty of advance notice.

I am looking forward to seeing the inlays too. LOL
smuprof
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 8:05 pm:   Edit Post

Jorge -

You and Dave were definitely missed . . . especially your basses :-) Everyone spoke well of your medium scale zebra wood Spoiler and Dave's 76 Series I!

Getting to know everyone's instruments, it seems like something's missing when someone's out. Going to be tough for Christian everytime we get together though :-)

We're talking about an all-day cook-out and jam for next time . . . hope you and Dave (and Christian) can make it!
jorge_s
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

Sounds Great!
alembic76407
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Post Number: 515
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 5:52 am:   Edit Post

sorry I didn't make it, but next time I will

it looked like fun, again

David T
speicky
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 8:03 am:   Edit Post

Hi, all,

this is my last day here in TX before I have to leave for Germany again. Thank you all so very much for all your help and care and the basstalks, it doesnt make it easier for me to leave Fort Worth though, LOL ! I will try to get hold of you today to say goodbye und Auf Wiedersehen. If i do not catch everyone, please feel hugged through this post.

have to come back here ASAP !

Christian
smuprof
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Christian with his new Seismic bass!
smuprof
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Mike and Christian struggle with which bass to play first . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Mike and Christian sit down to think because it is such a difficult choice. Wayne and Olie hold down their respective rigs to keep them from accidentally moving . . . :-)
smuprof
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Mike and Christian finally make their choices and start jamming . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Basses to the left . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. And basses to the right . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Christian (with Olie's Series I) and Wayne . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Olie laying down his inimitable groove with his favorite bass (Mark King 3/4 body spalted maple?) . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dalas Hosts Germany. Pete the drummer laying it down for quad basses (why just split your pickups when you can have four basses at once :-) ) . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Wayne with my new bass rig. A little background - I started looking for a very small, very portable bass rig that would work with a five string (low B is just slightly below 31 hZ). Wanted 2 10's, looked at everything out there, tried several. The problem with most that have the frequency range is that they are very inefficient (Acme's B2 is only 93 dB 1W/1M), and I didn't want to carry a kilowatt amp to power my small rig. Finally settled on Eden's XST cabinet (30 hZ, 103 dB 1W/1M) with an Eden WT300 amp (and an extra 18 hZ in low frequency response compared to their standard XLT cabinet). Very loud, very efficient, very low! Feeling very pleased with myself until Wayne shows up with his new Eden WTX-260 amp (similar specs at about 4 pounds instead of 16 pounds for my WT300). Wayne's amp is the little box that looking like an effect sitting on top of my amp - oh well, another toy to add to the wish list - Father's day is next Sunday!
smuprof
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Four players and two specials - Christian on the Seismic Bass, Mike playing Wayne's special "The Dark and The Light," Wayne on his 20th Anniversary special and Olie on his Series bass.
smuprof
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Post Number: 70
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. One more of the four bassman of the apocalypse . . . :-)
smuprof
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Supicious characters - watch your Alembics very carefully if you spot these guys (although Pete the drummer on the left, and Austin the guitarist on the right are probably safe to hang out with)

smuprof
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. RARE photo of Olie playing an instrument other than a bass . . . and it's not even an Alembic! I personally think Olie picked it up by mistake, thinking it was a very short scale, 6 string piccolo bass with light strings . . . :-)
smuprof
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Post Number: 73
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post

Pictures from Dallas Hosts Germany. Austin our token guitarist . . .
smuprof
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post

Picture of our recording "control room." Focusrite and Groove Tubes preamps, compressor and Fostex MR8 digital recorder fed by a couple of large diaphram condensor mics . . .
dannobasso
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Post Number: 562
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for sharing all the great pics. It is great thing to have a love for these instruments and to get together and share the experience. Not to mention all the toys that go along with it! I really like my 002 unit. The Blue Mics are also a nice touch. Where would the economy be without guys like you?
davehouck
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Post Number: 5094
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 5:07 pm:   Edit Post

I agree with Danno; great pics!!!
smuprof
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 5:58 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Danno -

I believe you're holding your own contributing to the economy :-) (cool myspace page) Let us know if you're in the area - we'll have another get together. With all of your Alembics, we might surpass the collection from the California gathering!
dannobasso
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Post Number: 563
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post

It is my dream to get to everyones village and hamlet with Doomtree.
(but the shipping would kill me so my road basses [4 max] could make it)
Flax brought Wolf by when he was buying an Acme. Thats as close as I get to a gathering. First balance K I ever held. A comfortable, beautiful and unique bass indeed.
Thanks again for sharing.
abrown
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Post Number: 1
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post

Hey Guys,

Austin here. I know I don't have an alembic, but I aspire to get one someday...that qualifies me doesn't it? Anyways, I just wanted to say that it was a pleasure meeting all you guys; I had a blast. And, I can't wait till the next one. Here is a link to my myspace page, so you guys can see what I've been working on musically for the past year: www.myspace.com/theaustinbrown. John should be uploading the mp3 some time today.

-Austin
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1402
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post

Cool pics John, thanks.

But why did you photo-shop all that gray in my hair? LOL

I did hear from Christian, he and the Seismic Bass made it home fine. I knew he'd have to stop playing his new toy and write us sooner or later. :-)

I'd love to hear the MP3's too. Maybe email some clips.

Thanks again guys for a great time and I am looking forward to the next
T.A.B. (Texas Alembic Bassfest)

Olie
keavin
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Post Number: 1221
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post

hey did you guys 'Youtube' anything?......or can you?

(Message edited by keavin on June 11, 2007)
smuprof
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post

Olie -

I think my camera is defective - my hair has a distinct grey tint to it also - but when I adjust it to blonde, everything else looks strange :-)

MP3 is about 6 meg, which I don't think we can post. We'll have to find a place to post and link it - maybe youtube.

JFT
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1404
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post

John, email it to me and I'll upload it to my personal web page.
groovelines
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Post Number: 479
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post

doesn't everything look strange to blondes anyway?
flaxattack
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post

thanks danno
glad you liked it
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1405
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

I see the camera didn't work on Mike or Wayne, hmmm what's up with that?

(Message edited by olieoliver on June 11, 2007)
davehouck
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Post Number: 5102
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Austin; welcome to the board! And yes, I would imagine that being around all those Alembics might whet your appetite.
alembic76407
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Post Number: 521
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 2:01 pm:   Edit Post

ya John , your camera made me look fat, its all your fault!!!!!!!!!

David T
smuprof
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Post Number: 79
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post

First I get blamed for Olie's grey hair, then I get blamed for Mike and Wayne's lack of grey hair, now Dave is blaming me for looking fat and he's not even in the picture!?!?!

Y'all be nice . . . you'll scare off all the other players for our next get together . . . :-)
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1406
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post

John I give all the credit for my gray to my wife and kids. LOL

What’s to be scared of, we’ve established that we are, for the most part, a bunch of gray headed “circumferencely” challenged, medium aged, appreciators of fine instruments.

Totally harmless., heh heh

Olie

PS I had to edit the original post, after reading it back my descriptive word didn't come out like I thought. LOL

(Message edited by olieoliver on June 11, 2007)
smuprof
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 2:53 pm:   Edit Post

A message about the audio post Olie is posting on his personal web page (Olie, you may want to copy this for the post with the link).

We had some nice grooves going the last time we got together, so this time we set up a small recorder and recorded some stereo tracks. Blue condensor mike with compressor and Focusrite preamp on the left, and an AT4040 condensor and Groove Tubes Brick preamp on the right. No particular mike placement, other than the AT closer to the drums, and the Blue mid-room equidistance from the three amps and drums.

We turned the recorder off and on and various times and just let it run in between, so this was not an organized recording (about 3 hours of raw "tape"). Austin took it home and edited out a lot of extraneous talking (although Wayne's story of explaining his first Alembic purchase to his wife just after he got married was pretty good) and general plunking.

The result is the recording which is about 6 meg and about 7 minutes. The first minute is pretty quiet nature sounds with a little dialogue, then some bass tracks with some nice transitions created by Austin. Most of what you hear is two, three and sometimes four basses, typically playing a bass line, a solo and either duplicate lines, harmony or chords. Pete does a great job drumming as always.

Obviously not a studio recording (not even anything direct to the board), but better than videotape with some interesting grooves for those who wonder what multiple basses sound like.

Next time we'll try to get a little more organized and make some better recordings - My new goal is to create an Alembic bass band recording with 4 or 5 basses playing simultaneously!
davehouck
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds interesting; let us know when it's up.
wayne
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post

Ummmm, John, I've just been informed that my lovely wife "wouldn't mind hearing that" recording of my story about the first Alembic.

Think you could defrag that part of the hard drive??? :-)

C-Ya.....(on the Tollway).....wayne
olieoliver
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Post Number: 1408
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 5:12 am:   Edit Post

Here is the MP3 Austin made. It's a large file and may take a few sec's to download.
Raw Audio

(Message edited by olieoliver on June 13, 2007)
davehouck
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 8:48 pm:   Edit Post

Cool!
jacko
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 1:45 am:   Edit Post

Very cool clip olie. Wish i'd been there.

graeme
drumrguy79
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Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

Hey Mike, thanks for sending me the link. And thanks for putting the audio file together, Austin!

Just wanted to say I enjoyed jamming with you guys! Nobody believes me when I tell them, "I jammed with a bunch of bass players last week."

We funked out with Olie and Wayne while Mike had fun with melodic lines and Christian rocked the house. It was a pretty cool combination.

Looking forward to next time!

Later,
Pete (the drummer)

...that's my name now. First name Pete, last name "the drummer". I like it!
groovelines
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Post Number: 481
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post

Hey, Pete!

I wondered if you'd make an appearance. Everyone meet Pete, Pete meet everyone. For the record, Pete is the best drummer I've ever had the pleasure to play with. And the fact that he doesn't mind spending an occasional Saturday afternoon with a bunch of bassists says something, too. Not sure what it is, but I'm sure it's something...

Mike
smuprof
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Post Number: 82
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 5:10 am:   Edit Post

Here here . . . I'll second Mike's endorsement of Pete the drummer. Thanks for hanging with us.

JT
jorge_s
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 5:30 am:   Edit Post

Yes Pete. I will third that. I really enjoyed jamming with you at our first gathering and I look forward to repeating that in the near future. Thank you!
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post

So Pete, I notice you have the same last name as Bill the drummer from the first Dead album - you kin?

Peter
lembic76450
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 5:44 pm:   Edit Post

Let's see.... We have about 1192 bass players, 200 guitar players, and 1 drummer. If we could find a keyboard player we could start a band.....
drumrguy79
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post

Hah! That's pretty funny. :-)

I don't know, I may be kin to Bill the drummer.

There's a couple of Bill's and at least one other drummer in my family. So, maybe...

And I know a good keyboard player...

Later,
Pete TD
dtrice
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post

If I can I'd like to make to a gathering. Maybe if Mike (Dela 217) is back in town I could bum a ride. Hmmm...
olieoliver
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post

We've already talked about maybe a fall event. I'll keep you posted.
ANd if you're ever in the DFW area let me know and maybe we could hook up for an afternoon jam.

Olie
dtrice
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Post Number: 108
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post

I was just there for the Rush conert. I didn't think about it.
dtrice
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post

Are you guys planning to make it a seasonal thing? Maybe every 3 months or so? I'm actually intrigued by the idea of a multiple Alembic bass band. I would take part in it, if nothing else for the posterity. Ha, let's call Guinness and go for the world record for most bassists in a band, and most basses on a recording.
dtrice
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Post Number: 110
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post

Of course, we would have to do a cover of "Big Bottom" from Spinal Tap.
olieoliver
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post

I always ready to play.
pierreyves
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post

I too !!
;o))
bracheen
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Post Number: 1264
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:21 am:   Edit Post

Call Guinness? I'm there!

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