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davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2416
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 7:09 am: |  |
Nice review Karl; thanks! |
dadabass2001
Senior Member
Username: dadabass2001
Post Number: 467
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 1:04 pm: | |
Karl,
"I recommend you get a mate to help - preferably your singer, cos he generally doesn't have to carry anything"
I always tried to make the singer carry the PA, two Voice of the Theatres and an old Peavey mono 200 watt mixer with a homemade 3/4" plywood cable case.
Mike |
jacko
Advanced Member
Username: jacko
Post Number: 356
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:36 am: | |
"I always tried to make the singer carry the PA, two Voice of the Theatres and an old Peavey mono 200 watt mixer with a homemade 3/4" plywood cable case."
Mike.
Can she manage all that in one trip?
Graeme |
dadabass2001
Senior Member
Username: dadabass2001
Post Number: 469
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 5:17 am: | |
Graeme,
(You made me choke on my coffee) Naw, she usually had to put down the twins and make three trips.
Actually the same old band had a Hammond B3 and a Leslie model 144 IIRC, so everybody got to sweat. And the drummer had a Ludwig double bass kit. We made it all fit in a Ford Econoline van.
Mike
"The 70s are over? ... Thank God!" |
gare
Advanced Member
Username: gare
Post Number: 287
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:54 am: | |
Howierd
In an earlier post you asked about Berhinger cabs.
I've been down with a medical problem the past few weeks, getting bored, so I spent an afternoon checking out stores to see whats new.
I tried out some G-K cabs..The backline series.
They're not top of the line, But I was impressed with the sound for the price. I tried out 2 1x15 rear ported cabs and a sealed 2x10 cab.
If you're still in the market, you may want to check them out The 1x15 is about $225, 2x10 $189, 4x10 $299.
Gary |
howierd
Junior
Username: howierd
Post Number: 45
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:25 am: | |
Gary.
After reading more about Behringer I decided not to get them. Actually I picked an almost new Ampeg 410HLF and it sounds really good. I also picked a 6 mo old Ampeg BSE115. I'm powering them with a QSC RMX1450 to a F2B and a DBX 266xl. I run the treble p/u to the 410 and bass p/u to the 115. I've always loved Ampeg products but the 115 sounds like crap. It doesn't have the lows I was expecting. I'll probably go back to Peavey 118D enclosure for the bass p/u.
Howierd  |
mgatov
Junior
Username: mgatov
Post Number: 18
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:04 am: | |
For playing around the house, I've fallen in love with a BillM modified Fender Blues Jr. amp. The cleans are complex, lush and touch sensitive. I've compared this amp side-by-side to the DRRI and the Twin Amp, as well as to my Mesa F-30. I don't need much power, so it is my go-to amp every time. |
ctjim
Junior
Username: ctjim
Post Number: 20
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 12:22 pm: | |
Here's one to show your age. I recently dug out my old Ampeg B15S from the attic. From sitting unused, roughly 25 or so yrs., pots had froze, so off to the local amp tech. After a little TLC, have I the practice/small club amp. Only down side a bit heavy. |
frank
New
Username: frank
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 3:30 pm: | |
I run my Alembic Orion 5 through a Haynes Bass King from the late 50's. It was one of the earliest solid states and I love the tone I get from her. I'm looking at new amps but I have a tight budget because I just got the orion. Has ANYBODY heard of Haynes bass king? I bet there out of business but I'd love to get some feedback on the subject.
Thanks,
Frank |
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass
Post Number: 523
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 6:13 pm: | |
An Eden Metro running an Eden 115XL extension cabinet.
The Metro would have been plenty for a four-string, but those low Ds and Cs are asking a lot out of Twin Reverb sized cabinet. Adding the 115 turned it from an upright to a concert grand. Not boomy, but the lows were just filled out wonderfully. I don't run a lot of EQ, typically a little boost in the deep end, flat middle and a slight cut in the highs.
I was amazed HOW MUCH better it sounded to me than a Super RedHead on top of a Son of Bertha, and it's a LOT louder. Both on casters, footswitch for the two Metro channels, mute, etc.
And it sounds good to the rest of the band, which always helps !
J o e y |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2811
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:39 pm: | |
A quick Google reveals that the Haynes Bass King was made by the Amplifier Corporation of America (ACA) which was located in Westbury, New York. The company was purchased in the '60s by Unicord, which was in turn purchased a few years later by Gulf & Western. |
bob
Senior Member
Username: bob
Post Number: 549
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:31 am: | |
So you went for it, Joey - congrats! |
frank
Junior
Username: frank
Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:22 am: | |
Dave:
Thanks for the info. It's much appreciated.
Frank |
jlpicard
Advanced Member
Username: jlpicard
Post Number: 276
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:18 pm: | |
Anyone have any experience with the Stewart 1.2 single rack space model? I'm looking to downsize as much as possible in order to make space in my rack for my DS-5R. Mike |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2855
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 5:44 am: | |
Mike; there have been several mentions of the Stewart in past threads. I ran a search on Stewart World and found quite a few. |
fmm
Intermediate Member
Username: fmm
Post Number: 113
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 7:36 am: | |
Is that the smaller one? I have heard of protection circuit / cut out issues wuth that one. |
jlpicard
Advanced Member
Username: jlpicard
Post Number: 277
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 9:45 am: | |
Thanks Dave, I'll check it out. mike |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2858
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 1:44 pm: | |
Michael (FMM); it seems to me that one of our club members may have posted about such a problem, but when I was looking through old threads this morning I didn't notice anything. I think there have been a few members who currently have or did have this model. |
jlpicard
Advanced Member
Username: jlpicard
Post Number: 278
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 9:04 pm: | |
On second thought, Does anyone know of any other manufacturers who make a single rack space power amp? I run through two Euphonic Audio cabinets with a combined power handling of 650 watts, so I'd ideally like something in that range. I'm presently using an Eden Traveler with 300 watts which sounds great but occasionally runs out of headroom. Also I need to mount my DS-5R but I'd rather not increase the size of the rack.
P.S. hope this isn't considered hijacking a thread? If so I apologize in advance. Mike |
slapbass
Member
Username: slapbass
Post Number: 82
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 6:49 am: | |
I have a Stewart World 2.1 and this thing will push my two Epifani cabs through the roof. I just ordered the World 1.2 single rack space. Stewart told me that those issues with the power cut are over so I will find out.
Keep Thumpin'
Dale |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2866
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:00 am: | |
Mike; one possible solution might be to mount the DS-5R, or one of the other components, in the back of the rack. Another might be going with two racks instead of one; but then that might defeat the purpose of downsizing. Which EA cabs do you have; are they 4 ohm or 8 ohm? |
jlpicard
Advanced Member
Username: jlpicard
Post Number: 281
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 1:43 pm: | |
They are 8 ohm models. The VL-110 and VL-208. Incredibly big sound from small cabs! |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2872
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 5:07 pm: | |
Well I just wrote a bunch of stuff, and then deleted it. So I'll just say this. I've been glancing through the manual of the Stewart World 1.2 and on the last page it says you may need to leave an empty rack space above it to provide the air space it needs to keep cool. Kinda defeats your purpose of saving rack space. |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:29 pm: | |
I read a review elsewhere that said the fins for the heat sink stuck up at the back of the amp, so you couldn't mount anything long (deep) on top of it. A power supply or preamp might be fine. |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 8:24 pm: | |
Also, I just picked up a QSC PLX 2402 this week, and it rocks. I have been playing through an F1X, just using my SWR SM-400 as a power amp, and would often be running out of headroom too soon. I tried a WT-550 for several practices one gig, and it just didn't have the growl or punch I was used to. The F1X/2402 has both like you wouldn't believe, and with 425w @ 8 ohms and 700w @ 4ohms per side, headroom shouldn't be an issue (and only 21 pounds, too). Running through 2 Eden 112's and a SWR 4x8, it gives a great sound either fullrange or biamped.
Something unusual (or not, probably you all know this already) I tried just for fun, and am really glad I did, is running only the lowpass side ofthe crossover as a mono out. Set at 3-5 o'clock, it gives a good sound, similar to a filter on an Alembic bass. Then the treble and midrange knobs will act kind of like CVQ knobs. The bright switch will still work, too. I wasn't expecting it to work nearly as well as it does. It opens up a whole new palette of tone, and it sounds like it was designed to be run like this. Try it out if you like warm and punchy.
Charles |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2876
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 5:55 am: | |
Charles; I don't recall anyone posting that they had tried something like that before. Sounds interesting! |
bob
Senior Member
Username: bob
Post Number: 555
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 10:26 am: | |
Charles, what frequency range corresponds to the 3-5 o'clock settings? |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2881
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 1:33 pm: | |
Ok, so I didn't use a tripod!
The numbers are 70, 150, 800, 3300.
I've spent about an hour or more trying to figure out how to calculate a curve based on these numbers; but I was unsuccessful. If you know the formula for plotting this curve or if you have software that will plot the curve based on these data, then you can tell what frequency range 3-5 o'clock would be. There may be an interactive java site that will do the trick; I just haven't found it yet. And my lack of math skills isn't helping any. |
bob
Senior Member
Username: bob
Post Number: 556
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:03 pm: | |
I'm not a whiz at this either, but my guess is that you should be able to get a straight line using evenly spaced points on the x-axis for the marks, and a log scale on the y-axis for frequency.
And as I'm sure you've found by now, that won't fit... but from 150 up it's pretty close, and an eyeball fit gives me about 1250 and 2050 for the two marks between 800 and 3300.
So in round numbers, Charles is talking about using a low pass filter with the frequency in the range of about 1500-3300 (and no Q from the crossover itself). Sure, I can see that would be interesting. |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:26 pm: | |
I'm not sure on the freq's, either. What I was doing was plucking with one hand and knob twiddling with the other (that sounds a little weird), and using my ears to figure out where to stop. |
dannobasso
Advanced Member
Username: dannobasso
Post Number: 325
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 7:23 am: | |
Now you must try the SF2! I have 2 amp setups with DTR-F1X-SF2-PLX3402-and 2402. THE SF2 is a great piece of gear.I run mine in the effects loop so All of the f1x controls are usable. I don't use the crossover anymore. Mono out into the plx's set in parallel. I did get a GBE 1200 as a head I can ship for gigs. It cannot touch the Alembic components.
Ask Santa for one! (sf2)
Danno |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 7:05 pm: | |
Danno, An SF2 is on my wishlist for sure, but all available funds will be going into the bass I just ordered for now. Does anyone know of a nice, small rackmount power strip I could put at the back of the rack so I can fit an SF2 without upsizing racks? Plus mine has been with me for a long time (1993) and I'd hate to abandon it.
Before anyone asks, my theory on leaving the amp rack on the ground is that the tubes will be subjected to less vibration, plus it leaves me a nice flat place on top of the cabinet for my beverage/keys/etc.
 |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2897
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 7:06 am: | |
I don't quite understand the question. I'm assuming your rack does not have rack rails in the back.
And I too avoid putting the rack on top of the speakers. |
howierd
Junior
Username: howierd
Post Number: 50
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 7:42 am: | |
Be careful setting any amp or preamp on it's side as the heat from the tubes goes up. When I traded my 1972 SVT head to a fellow bass player back in the late 70's, for some reason he Set the Svt on it's side while playing a gig and he blew all the tubes and damaged the the transformer. He took it to be repaired and when it was fixed he didn't have the money to reclaim the amp, so he lost it.
Howierd |
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 836
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 9:43 am: | |
Garcia always played with twin Fender Twin heads mounted together in one cabinet sitting on its side wired to three stacked JBL 12s (with a McIntosh 2300 power amp in between). As he did it this way for many years, I assume he had no problems with tubes heating the wrong way.
Bill, tgo
(Message edited by lbpesq on December 26, 2005) |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 12:44 pm: | |
Dave, you're right about no rear mounts. Don't know what I was thinking. Maybe I can affix a power strip or 3-way extension cord. Howeird, I can see how that would be bad with power tubes, although I've been doing this for over 10 years and haven't had any problems. My two previous amps were SWR's with one preamp tube each and they never gave me any trouble. |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2898
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 1:40 pm: | |
Charles; it appears you have the same type rack as I. I use two racks. In the top rack I have a Rack Rider like yours. In the second rack, I now have a power strip that I run to the Rack Rider. The power strip has holes and grooves in the back. I screwed two screws in to the side wall of the rack in an area where they were out of the way of the components and where they wouldn't protrude to the outside. I then slid the power strip over the screws and slid it down along the grooves so that it is more or less secured to the inside of the rack. So far, this appears to be working well. Several years ago before I had the Rack Rider and this rack, I had a similar power strip attached to the inside of a rack. That particular power strip had screws in the top which allowed one to open the strip up. Opened, the bottom of the strip could then be screwed directly into the rack; and then the top could be screwed back on, making for a more secure connection. |
crgaston
Junior
Username: crgaston
Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 3:23 pm: | |
Dave, I was thinking velcro or zip-ties, but that's a much better idea. Any problems with the synthetic rack body cracking? |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2903
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 4:59 pm: | |
It seems to work fine. I have my DS-5 screwed to the floor of my top rack. |
hb3
Junior
Username: hb3
Post Number: 50
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 7:01 pm: | |
anybody play any of the new orange amps/cabinets? they're like, you know, orange.... |
jseitang
Intermediate Member
Username: jseitang
Post Number: 134
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 1:05 pm: | |
the new oranges in my opinion, are ok but if you really want that kind of sound, try a old matamp or a electric amp. you wont even consider the orange after playing those. |
hb3
Member
Username: hb3
Post Number: 52
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 2:34 pm: | |
wow! too cool:
http://www.matamp.com/mat-mathias.html
you know that guy's seen some serious action. |
hb3
Member
Username: hb3
Post Number: 53
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 2:39 pm: | |
ohmigod....pant.....
http://www.electricamp.com/orangeamp.html |
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck
Post Number: 2943
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 8:17 pm: | |
Interesting story. |
locutusofborg10
Member
Username: locutusofborg10
Post Number: 81
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 5:39 am: | |
I have a GK head and very simply, find the GK's extremely compatable with my Epic. The wide range of sounds I get as well as the punch and clarity, in my opinion, makes them, for the price, a nice marriage. I also have a SWR head wich gives me a very warm bottom tone. I use them together and the sound I get is awesome. For anyone looking for a simple setup I highly recommend this combo. |
jotoft
New
Username: jotoft
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 1:15 am: | |
I ordered an Ampeg Portabass from a webshop here in Norway (250W amp, 2x10" speakers). I wouldn't normally have bought an amp without testing it first, but it was a weekend offer and they were selling it at half price.
Anyway, I wasn't happy with it, it colored the sound too much and I felt it didn't let the Alembic sound through.
There was also too little bottom end. Anything below C on the A string was to weak. Might have something to do with the sealed box construction.
It was extremely lightweight though, almost as if they had sent me an empty box. :-)
So I sent it back and got an SWR Workingman's 15 instead. And I'm much happier with that. It's a lot heavier, but I manage. It obviously cannot compete with some of the high end gear mentioned in above posts, but I like it a lot. It gives a nice, full sound that suits the Alembic well. And powerwise it's an overkill in the band I play now, I only use it for stage sound and we're playing an acoustic type of music. But it's nice to have that 15" speaker for the bottom end. |
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