| Author | Message | ||
| alanbass1
New Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2005 |
OK, I have have just purchased a Mark King signature. My current set of rigs are: 1. Thunderfunk TFB550 straight into an Epifani T210UL cab 2. Eden WT400, into a TL Audio Ivory 5021 compressor, into a pair of Euphonic Audio CXL112 cabs. I recently got the '1' rig for the combination of sound quality and portability, and it really is great. The only issue I have with either rig is that at the bigger, or open air gigs I occassionally do, I find I need more 'clout' at the extremes of volumes. I was thinking of getting an Eden WT800 and a couple more EA CXL112 cabs; any other things I should consider? (Message edited by alanbass1 on April 14, 2005) | ||
| jacko
Intermediate Member Username: jacko Post Number: 160 Registered: 10-2002 |
Alan. I've used Trace Elliot exclusively for about 10 years. I currently only have a 4X10 combo but will soon be adding a 1X15 as Trace have been resurrected by peavey. Well worth a look if you can wait 6 weeks for the products to appear in the shops. http://www.trace-elliot.co.uk And don't forget - Mark King was one of Trace's main endorsers, at least till they were sold to gibson. graeme | ||
| gare
Intermediate Member Username: gare Post Number: 177 Registered: 11-2003 |
Hi Alan...welcome First thing I'd ask is are you happy with your sound ? If so, why not just go into the main sound system at bigger jobs ? Both of your amps should have direct outs, or invest in a direct box. It would be a little less expensive and less to carry. Gary | ||
| ajdover
Intermediate Member Username: ajdover Post Number: 196 Registered: 11-2003 |
I use Ampeg, pretty much exclusively. However .. Get an SF-2, and anything you use will sound better. No joke. I did, and it made my SVT-IV Pro and Rickenbacker sound like Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, and Paul McCartney had all entered the room, tonally, at the same time! Best of luck, Alan | ||
| ajdover
Intermediate Member Username: ajdover Post Number: 197 Registered: 11-2003 |
Just to clarify .. I'm not in the same league with Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, and Paul McCartney .. However, the SF-2 is! Alan | ||
| alanbass1
New Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2005 |
I'm happy with the sound and I do DI at the bigger venues. However, I find that I play better if I can feel the bass on stage. When coming back through the monitors it is generally back in the mix with the drums as the vocals take the priority. I guess that playing so many smaller venues we have all got used to that big onstage sound and this helps us to groove so much better. The worst gigs for this are when we play open air as the sound just gets lost and we find it hard to pick up the vibe. Also, I miss the arguments with the sound guy when we are playing larger venues. We were discussing this the other night and I might be leaning toward getting a pair of active EV PA speakers and running the DI out to these. We can then use these for PA at the smaller venues where PA's are not provided and this would be a major upgrade for our PA also. Anyone tried this? | ||
| the_mule
Senior Member Username: the_mule Post Number: 469 Registered: 1-2004 |
I'm a Glockenklang fanatic, and with a SF-2 in the effects loop a serious amount of sonic delight is guaranteed! (basses: Alembic Orion + Benavente SC5-B) Wilfred | ||
| gie_bass
New Username: gie_bass Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2005 |
hi, i'm new here. i'm from malaysia. how's everyone doing? i just bought a 2nd hand essence. besides of that, i owned a warwick streamer standard and a japan made fender jazzbass fretless. i'm currently uses my alembic for practice and shows. it sounds wonderful. | ||
| willride3
New Username: willride3 Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2005 |
Hello, I have a lefty Essence 5 that I play through several amps at different locations. A Carvin PB 100 combo with a 15 at church. This little thing really does the job. At another church building, through a Roland cube keyboard mixer amp with about 60 watts and a 12 spkr. The church provides these amps. At home and at other gigs I take either an Ashdown ABM C115 500 combo amp, or if it's outside I bring old faithful, an Alembic F2B old tube preamp w/ an old Peavey P.A. M 2600 amp with an old Peavey 2-15 cabinet. If I want effects,( I rarely do) I have a Peavey Bassfex unit in which I run the Alembic preamp in the effects loop. I have used the Ashdown, and the old Peavey Alembic rig together. it sounds really good, and plenty of great sound all day long, (but a lot of stuff to bring. I was told once, "we play for free, we get paid for moving equipment") I guess really I haven't found an amp I couldn't get a very good sound out of with my Essence, I just love it. Even today, I practiced 4 hours through a Crate 30 watt w/ an 8 in spkr. up in the computer room. You can't beat an Alembic in my opinion for great sound. Tom | ||
| gare
Intermediate Member Username: gare Post Number: 179 Registered: 11-2003 |
Alan Your Ev idea sounds interesting. Myself and several other people on the list have recently aquired Schroeder cabinets. They're quite nice, project well, and can be heard off axis very well,and have a good frequency range,most are 40 to 18k hz. Something to check out anyway..they're at Schroeder Cabinets.com. Doesn't cost much to surf. Gary | ||
| richbass939
Advanced Member Username: richbass939 Post Number: 226 Registered: 11-2004 |
Gie bass, welcome to the club and congratulations on getting an Essence. If you start a thread in the "Introductions" section more people will see it. Tell us what it's like being a musician in Malaysia. Also we would love to see pictures of you, your Essence, and your gigs. Rich | ||
| locutusofborg10
Member Username: locutusofborg10 Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2002 |
of all the amps i've used (and there have been plenty) i find the gallien-kreugers give me the best sound for my epic. it doesn't seem to matter what model of GK as i've tried them all and these amps seem perfectly matched for alembics. | ||
| s_wood
Intermediate Member Username: s_wood Post Number: 131 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have totally fallen in love with Accugroove cabinets. They are the best cominbation of killer tone and light weight I have ever heard. The tone of a Series bass through an Accugroove cabinet had got to be heard to be believed. Accugroove's philosophy of producing uncolored sound with the best possible low-end response is a perfect match to the tone of an Alembic. At 57 lbs, their Tri210 (2 10's, 1 6" and 2 tweeters) blows the doors off of my old Eden 410 XST. At 38 lbs, the Accugroove Tri 112 ( 1 12", 1 6" and 2 tweeters) is comparable to anyone else's 2x10 box. Really amamazing stuff! | ||
| jazzyvee
Intermediate Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 197 Registered: 6-2002 |
I wish we had the choice of amps /speakers you guys talk on the forum. Most i haven't even heard of never mind seen. Here in the UK we only have the more well known brands of amps available in music shops. these are usually not the high end models either. That said i did try, Ashdown, EBS, Ampeg, Eden before settling on my Mesa boogie rig. I have no problems with it at all and it suits my needs since most of my gigs are through a full PA so I don't need 1000's of watts of power. Maybe one day when I'm touring in the states I can check out some gear and maybe sent some back home. | ||
| alanbass1
Junior Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2005 |
I tried the Accugroove alongside the Epifani (which I purchased). The Accugroove is the choice of cab that Dave Funk packages with his Thunderfunk amp. I went for the Epifani which also weigh's 38lb's as it had a tighter and punchier delivery which was what I was looking for. I already have an EA CXL112 (weighing in at 40lbs) and this was very similar in delivery to the Accugroove which is why I didn't go for it. But the Accugroove is a great cab, for sure. Jazzyvee, I'm from the UK and all the equipment stated on this page is available for demo at the Gallery: http://www.thebassgallery.com/ The only thing they will not have is the Thunderfunk which I ordered direct from Dave after meeting someone who was using one and I was totally knocked out. I would highly recommend them to anyone: http://www.thunderfunk.com/ On the subject of cool stuff, you need to check this out. Don't worry, it won't put Alembic out of business as he only makes about ten instruments a year; but they sure are something different: http://www.bassurgery.com/ | ||
| gie_bass
New Username: gie_bass Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2005 |
hi rich, erm.. well, in order to survive in malaysia's music industry, you have to be able to know all type of music. cant live by just playing rock. must know a lil bit of pop,jazz, traditional etc | ||
| jlpicard
Intermediate Member Username: jlpicard Post Number: 179 Registered: 7-2002 |
Anyone had any experience with Phil Jones amps and cabs? I love small woofers. Mike | ||
| jazzyvee
Advanced Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 201 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey, I'm still having problems getting a good bass sound through pa at my gigs. On stage sound through my rig and from the monitors is beefy ,l crisp and heavy but when I get out into the venue with a wireless to check the out front sound, the bass sounds thin... any advice? At recent gigs I tried bass--->DI----> DI ------> amp and pa Then the last gig was Bass ----> AMP ------> amp's DI Out socket---- > PA still no meat on the bass. Any advice? | ||
| alanbass1
Member Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2005 |
This is why I'm looking to get as much solid sound from my rig, before PA re-inforcement. I find the sound guys always cut back on the lower registers to help the vocals and kick drum cut through. I love having a big bottom end (oh er missus) so I'm trying to get as much off stage as possible . | ||
| jazzyvee
Advanced Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 202 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have tried upping my on-stage sound at gigs but get GBH on the eardrums from the sound guys bacause the can't control it. On some of the really big stages I've played both indoors and out doors the sound guys seem to be able to get the sound I want but in small clubs with a couple of hundred people they rarely seem to get it right. | ||
| alanbass1
Member Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2005 |
When I play small clubs I try to go straight off the stage. I tend to go a fairly high level and let them fill a bit of bass in if they start to up the ante. However, they don't like it as they are pretty much control freaks. On guitar it's worse as I need a certain volume for his amp to hit the sweet spot (I use non master volume valve amps for guitar). The way we do it now is that we specify that we have our own sound guy before we take gigs. He is a good friend and understands mixing, and generally clubs are ok with this, even if they 'supervise'him. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 1669 Registered: 5-2002 |
Just to get a different perspective on the problem, you might want to try micing the speaker cab instead of running direct at soundcheck. If it doesn't help, it only takes a second to switch back to direct. | ||
| bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 721 Registered: 11-2003 |
Speaking of amps and Alembic, did anyone catch the Distillate on page 28 of the current Ampeg catalogue? Very nice. Sam (Message edited by bracheen on May 03, 2005) | ||
| exploiterplayer
Junior Username: exploiterplayer Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2002 |
I get a great sound out of a Trace Elliott 4x10 300 watt combo. After years of lugging around Huge refrigerator sized rigs (Ampeg SVT 8x10, Hartke 8x10, Gallien Krueger 2x15)....I finally went in search of a high powered combo that wouldnt break up at high volume and the Trace 1210H has served me well. I hear Ashdown and Eden have great sounding combos as well but they seemed to cost quite a bit more than the Trace. | ||
| alanbass1
Member Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2005 |
After a dozen or so gigs, I have found that my Thunderfunk and Epifani TL210UL combination works really well with my MK signature. My Eden WT400 also scores highly but lacks the headroom that the Thunderfunk has at high volumes. | ||
| locutusofborg10
Member Username: locutusofborg10 Post Number: 69 Registered: 11-2002 |
ok believe, it or not, the best amp i have used with my epic is a galien-kruger | ||
| bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 724 Registered: 11-2003 |
Are you using GK currently and with what cabinets? I'm asking because I've been looking at GK. Sam | ||
| mpisanek
New Username: mpisanek Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2005 |
I have just purchased a new rig. I put it together over some time and it has turned out to be great! My rig is an Alembic F1x preamp into a QSC PLX2402 power amp. I also have just purchased 2 Eden 2x10 XST cabs. The sound is Awsome! It is crystal clear, and amazingly Loud!!! | ||
| jacko
Advanced Member Username: jacko Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2002 |
I was wondering if Mike would post on here. I've only heard his graphite upright through his new rig but it did indeed sound awesome- and that was with a blown driver! Can't wait to borrow it and see how it sounds as I'm thinking of moving away from trace elliot and building something similar now. Probably an Eden WP100 pre-amp into the same QSC as Mikes then an Eden 2x10 and 1X15. Graeme | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 897 Registered: 9-2003 |
Eden WT-550 and two D210XST cabs. Portable, potent, and crystal-clear. |
