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slicknickhaas
Junior
Username: slicknickhaas

Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 7:57 pm:   Edit Post

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120592678856

is this a joke?
slawie
Advanced Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 231
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

Also posted here

http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/82594.html?1278965394

there seems to be some authenticity to the claim

slawie
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2532
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post

The linked thread discusses LD Heater's involvement as a distributor of Alembic instruments.

That's an entirely different matter from the Pan/Alembic instruments.

quote:

A few years back, Michael posted in this thread the following:

"Pan was a company that was distributed by L.D. Heater. The same folks that distributed Alembic back in 1973 and 74 before Rothchild stepped in. A Pan/Alembic is a Pan instrument that was modified by Alembic on a production line basis. At least that is what the Pan brochure says that I am taking this from. The Pan/Alembic instruments featured Alembic ceramic magnet hot-rod modification and some Alembic shielding. There was also some Alembic low end boost and low end cut switches. So....a Pan was a Pan, and a Pan/Alembic was just a knockoff with some uprated electronics."


mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6824
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post

Pan was not modified by Alembic. Pan sent us some instruments asking for comments on how to improve them. We sent them back with a list of things, like adding Hot-Rod kits or Blasters and shielding. Then our logo shows up with the claim "modified by Alembic" on their guitars. Weak!

I didn't realize they had it explicitly stated in their brochure as well. I would restate that a Pan was a Pan and a Pan/Alembic is a Pan with Alembic writing on it but no direct involvement from Alembic.
slawie
Advanced Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 232
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post

Sneaky people.
Sorry my bad.

slawie
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1087
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a seller that bought in to the hype

ebay
thumbsup
Intermediate Member
Username: thumbsup

Post Number: 139
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post

how can these companies get away with these false claims? what about copyright and trade marks?
maybe because it was some years ago. Wouldn't happen todays market?......
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2601
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 2:51 am:   Edit Post

As the trademark holder you have to oppose the infringement - it was the same then as it is now. Have your legal representative write them a cease-and-desist letter, sue them if they don't comply. And remember that if you don't oppose the infringement, you might lose the trademark.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4588
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

Anyone notice that the description states "4 pickups"? The seller apparently can't count, either!

Bill, tgo

(Message edited by lbpesq on September 26, 2010)

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