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bob
Intermediate Member
Username: bob

Post Number: 107
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 7:37 pm:   Edit Post

Palembic, behave yourself, or we'll have to get "moder Val" involved <g>. Despite the unfortunate sequence of postings, I believe the correct interpretation is that Edwin was thanking Mica for the photo of his bass under construction. The picture you're referring to is of someone else, quite possibly better known to Edwin but I refuse to speculate about that.
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 30
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:34 am:   Edit Post

Dear Joe, I would like to be her gigbag......
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 31
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:41 am:   Edit Post

The logo on my new bass. Where is the right place? Any suggestions?Logo1
mattheus
Member
Username: mattheus

Post Number: 92
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post

Mmmmmm, and I would like to be her straplock.....
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:45 am:   Edit Post

Or..Logo2
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 33
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:49 am:   Edit Post

Or...Logo3
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 34
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:52 am:   Edit Post

Or...Logo4
mattheus
Member
Username: mattheus

Post Number: 93
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:59 am:   Edit Post

Or in the neck....

Maybe it's me, but I see some similarity..........

Hi Ed, binnenkort kom ik weer leuten....


Mattheus
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 2:19 am:   Edit Post

Hey Matheus, leuteraar.
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 853
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 2:31 am:   Edit Post

Wacht ik leuter mee!!!

I propose the fish swimming up from the lower horn???

Paul the bad one

PS: can I be the catch???
bracheen
Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 91
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 3:37 am:   Edit Post

Edwin,
I like the location in the second photo but would be concerned that your arm would cover it while playing. Is that the Superb Walnut? I like that wood more everytime I see it. What a beauty.

Sam

thebass
Member
Username: thebass

Post Number: 85
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 4:04 am:   Edit Post

Hi,

if you want to see the fish better you might want to place it on the upper horn swimming towards the straplock ?

Werner

P.S.: I want to restring the next set please ;-)

(Message edited by thebass on January 08, 2004)
mdrdvp
Member
Username: mdrdvp

Post Number: 83
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 4:20 am:   Edit Post

Leuten bij Eddie, de hele dag.

Second picture. The same as the other one you have with your name on it.
Why a fish?

Manfred
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 856
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 4:42 am:   Edit Post

The Fish?

If I remember well Ed's nickname with the Alembicians has always been "the fish". Why? Beats me? when under the spotlights his head glimmer as a fish in the water??? Or is he difficult to catch? Ot does he taste very well with a dry white wine?? Or he is a hell of a swimmer?? Or is he making funny movements with his mouth in the morning before the bathroom mirror???
I dunno.

Paul the bad one
adriaan
Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 95
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 5:28 am:   Edit Post

To be honest, the symbol is very nice, and the bass key is very cleverly done - but it's very gristelijk as well.

Of course that's not exactly in tune with the multi-string lady ... and I can't believe nobody is interested in a position as the endpin.

Other than that, I think the fish looks best on the peghead - but where would you put the logo?

(Message edited by Adriaan on January 08, 2004)
adriaan
Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 96
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post

To be honest again, I prefer the classic Man Ray photograph:

Man Ray Violon d'Ingres

Not as sexy, agreed.
mdrdvp
Member
Username: mdrdvp

Post Number: 84
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 6:12 am:   Edit Post

So it has nothing to do with the smell? Ok.

Why not use the fish as the truss rod cover?

Manfred
edwin_van_huik
Junior
Username: edwin_van_huik

Post Number: 36
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 6:36 am:   Edit Post

Jij Manny, grrrrrrrrr. Alles goed?

Alembic used to have a goldfish called Edwin, when that fish passed away, they start calling me The Fish..........

Dear Sam, it is Walnut Burl.

Dear Werner, all strings at the same time?
thebass
Member
Username: thebass

Post Number: 86
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post

Dunno, have to try with different gauges to find the appropiate gauge first ;-)
thebass
Member
Username: thebass

Post Number: 87
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post



(Message edited by thebass on January 08, 2004)
the_schwartz
Junior
Username: the_schwartz

Post Number: 40
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post

Dear Edwin:

I vote for the headstock (for the logo that is, not for the part of the sexy painted-on bass)

Joe
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1382
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

Too late for votes - Mike followed your emailed instructions already, Edwin, so it looks like your photo #1 (was number 4 from the pics I sent to you).

Of all the photos, I thought #4 and #7 were best.

Help me adriaan, what's "gristelijk?"
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 862
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post

Moder Mica,

"gristelijk" is a funny way to spell "christelijk". The fish itself but surely the design of the one on Ed's bass reminds of a symbol lots use in the christian church. That fish is a symbol of the Lord Jesus.

Paul the bad one


Adriaan???
bracheen
Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 100
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post

I didn't even catch the bass clef. I just now saw it after rereading Adriaan's post. Very clever.

Sam
adriaan
Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 97
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 1:31 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,

We're speaking Dutch here, as you might have guessed. Gristelijk is a wordplay on christelijk, which simply means christian, and it is used when referring to protestants, whether they belong to the 'black stockings' church (think Amish) or to an 'EO' type of community (think a praise type of public broadcasting company). It's not a rude reference, but not very sympathetic either.

The fish is of course an early christian emblem: the Greek word for fish ICHTOS (sometimes spelled ICHTHUS) is an akrostichon of 'Jesus Christ Son of God' in Greek - perhaps not exactly that phrase, but you get the idea.

Not sure if it's the same in the US, but here in the Netherlands there's lots of people driving around with that sort of an outline of a fish on the back of their car. I must say Edwin's fish is drawn a bit more in freehand style than those emblems.

Also, most people have the fish facing to the right, and I think you're right in making it face to the left. It's a rule of the thumb for portraits: the model should never have the face turned to the right (for the viewer).

Adriaan
adriaan
Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 98
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post

For those who wonder what the wordplay is in "gristelijk" ... and don't laugh!

#1
The word christelijk, like the word christian in English, starts with a K sound in 'official' Dutch.

#2
Protestants typically try to distinguish themselves from denomination to denomination by pronouncing biblical names differently. In the Netherlands, some imitate jewish, others pronounce each letter as if the name was in Dutch.

#3
The letters "ch" are used in regular Dutch spelling for a sound that is at the same time an R and an aspirated H. There is also another spelling for the same sound, "g", and this is nearly always used when the word starts with this sound.

#4
The southern Dutch regions, plus the neighbouring Flemish Dutch speaking Belgian regions, pronounce this sound softly, with less of the R in it. (It's easier on the throat.)

#5
The 'soft G' regions are traditionally Roman Catholic.

So once you've connected all the dots, you know how to pronounce "christelijk" properly, and everybody laughs.

Yes, you too can understand Dutch humour. Or you can check out the funny pictures on Edwin's website.

Last but not least, I wonder why someone archived so many messages on this thread today?!

Adriaan
bob
Intermediate Member
Username: bob

Post Number: 109
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 7:25 pm:   Edit Post

And to think I sometimes have trouble with British humor...

As long as we're exchanging cultural stuff, yes, you also see people driving around the US with the fish symbol on the back of their car (frequently with additional bumper stickers in varying degrees of fervor).

However, at least here in California (probably banned in Kansas...), you also see a pretty fair number of people countering with a variation. It has the same basic outline of the fish, but a couple of small legs/feet have been added, and the body of the fish is filled in with "Darwin".

-Bob
kenbass4
Junior
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post

...and then the response from the fish people (no offense, I'm christian) with the above upside down and the words "Darwin is Dead" next to it...
Or the one with no tail on the right side that says "ALIEN" inside. Yeah, we have all kinds here in California!
the_schwartz
Junior
Username: the_schwartz

Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post

...or the Jewish version, where the body of the fish contains the word "LOX".
bob
Intermediate Member
Username: bob

Post Number: 110
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post

(This is supposed to be Edwin's topic, right? Oh well, happens all the time.)

I know I've seen the dead Darwin a few times, and maybe the LOX (most likely while visiting in New Jersey), but never the ALIEN. So mostly because I was too tired to do anything useful (like going to sleep), I plugged in a Google search on "darwin jesus lox alien cars symbol fish" and came up with this one:

http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/emblems.html

A little something for almost anyone here, other than the original (presented for your amusement only).

But none of them incorporate the bass clef, like Edwin's - I also didn't see that until it was pointed out, very nice touch.

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