| Author | Message | ||
| alembic76407
Advanced Member Username: alembic76407 Post Number: 398 Registered: 5-2002 |
How are gas prices in you neck of the woods Oklahoma City Okla. $2.04 unleaded $3.12 Diesel | ||
| lowlife
Intermediate Member Username: lowlife Post Number: 189 Registered: 12-2003 |
West End Montreal, Canada About $1.10/Litre unleaded. Convert this to gallons (3.8 litres per gallon) and add the exchange rate (25%); which would work out to about $5.22 US per gallon. Ouch! Ellery (Lowlife) | ||
| glocke
Member Username: glocke Post Number: 79 Registered: 9-2002 |
In Bucks County PA they range from 2.5 unleaded to 2.70... | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 541 Registered: 10-2003 |
Terre Haute, Indiana unleaded $2.39/gal, diesel $3.12/gal. | ||
| edwin
Member Username: edwin Post Number: 95 Registered: 5-2002 |
What's up with the high cost of diesel? Since we tour in a diesel powered bus, the cost of traveling is getting ridiculous. Gas has gone back down, but diesel remains high. Edwin | ||
| richbass939
Senior Member Username: richbass939 Post Number: 443 Registered: 11-2004 |
In my part of Colorado regular unleaded is $3 and diesel is about $3.45. Edwin, I have heard that a large portion of the fuel production capacity normally devoted to diesel production has been shifted to gasoline production, as a result of pressure to lower gasoline prices. Don't know for sure but that's the buzz. Rich | ||
| keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 214 Registered: 2-2005 |
Raleigh, NC $2.79/gal for unleaded. Keith | ||
| mpisanek
Member Username: mpisanek Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2005 |
Edinburgh, Scotland Gas - £0.91 per Liter = $4.65 / gallon Disel - £0.94 per Liter | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 644 Registered: 6-2002 |
The Netherlands, about 1.39 euro per liter - $1 = 0.80 euro - that makes $8.85 per gallon. | ||
| jacko
Advanced Member Username: jacko Post Number: 382 Registered: 10-2002 |
Okay Mike, you tell me where I can find Diesel at 94 pence a litre? Cheapest out west is nearer 97 pence. Anyway, 94 pence a liter works out at $6.27 US for a USA gallon (3.785 litres instead of the UK 4.546 litres) I've said it before and I'll say it again, you Americans don't know you're born when it comes to fuel prices ;-) Graeme (Message edited by jacko on October 25, 2005) | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1143 Registered: 9-2003 |
Diesel costs 1/3 of the cost of gasoline to refine. Ridiculous Diesel prices can be summed-up in two words: PRICE GOUGING! Or how's about one word: GREED! Prices in most of the rest of the world have always been high because the fuel is taxed to death. Now we're paying for oil company greed and the excuse is from ECONOMICS101: Supply and Demand...the third world, i.e., mostly China, is sucking up all the sweet crude, so the rest of the world has to suffer, or so we're told. ALL BS! Greed is the culprit...Dubya loves it: Cap'n Nuculer WOMD makes all his scratch from it! FWIW, I'm paying $2.67 for #2 Diesel...$90-$100/tank each fill-up...it lasts for a week, if I'm lucky! I've had my '04.5 Dodge Ram Cummins HD P/U for 17mos...Diesel was $1.41/gal when I bought the d*mn thing (stayed that way for 6 mos. prior), and has increased steadily since. Gee, only 33 more monthly payments and it's all mine, LOL! For comparision, I got a 2.8% "merit" raise this year! | ||
| keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 218 Registered: 2-2005 |
I've been thinking of picking up a small diesel car for local use and converting it to vegetable oil. Most of the restaurants around here would give it away rather than pay to haul it off. Should keep costs down since regular diesel is only needed to start the car. Keith | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 647 Registered: 6-2002 |
Supply-and-demand is a simplistic concept. On the supply side, the price is as high as the demand side will tolerate. When it comes to fuel, there's a high tolerance level. This is before taxes - but then I've seen the condition of the roads in countries with low taxes - you gets what you pays for. | ||
| rogertvr
Advanced Member Username: rogertvr Post Number: 379 Registered: 1-2003 |
You obviously haven't seen the state of the roads in the UK, Adriaan - and we have stupidly high fuel taxes here. I've been to third world countries with better roads than the state they're in here. There was an official survey that I saw the results of only last week, and they concluded what I've thought about the state of our roads for a long time - that they're in appalling condition! | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 648 Registered: 6-2002 |
It's been a while since I noticed the roads in the UK - have been over a few times, but not driving a car. Roads are in pretty good condition in the Netherlands, so it must be something to do with the miles-of-road-to-square-miles-of-territory ratio. | ||
| mpisanek
Member Username: mpisanek Post Number: 77 Registered: 1-2005 |
The UK has a great tax and spend policy. Tax on one thing and spend on what you like! | ||
| jacko
Advanced Member Username: jacko Post Number: 386 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah. The car tax is also known as the 'Road Fund License'. Wonder how much of it gets spent on the roads LOL! graeme | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 649 Registered: 6-2002 |
The infamous Council Tax springs to mind. | ||
| mpisanek
Member Username: mpisanek Post Number: 79 Registered: 1-2005 |
No, I think the council tax is not a good example. The council tax us and definitely spend it on the council, not the residents! | ||
| jacko
Advanced Member Username: jacko Post Number: 387 Registered: 10-2002 |
Very true! LOL;-) graeme | ||
| gare
Advanced Member Username: gare Post Number: 273 Registered: 11-2003 |
Northern Illinois Unleaded 2.479 Diesel 3.349 I've recently been having problems with plugs and valves fouling, which I'm being told is caused by the crappy gas on the market since good ole G'Dub rescinded some EPA regs to boost production. | ||
| rogertvr
Advanced Member Username: rogertvr Post Number: 380 Registered: 1-2003 |
Can't disagree with any of this. I think we spend about 20% of tax on fuel and road fund license on the roads, don't we? It's some terrible ratio. Disgraceful really. Some of the rest no doubt goes towards giving criminals a decent holiday due to the fact that they had a poor upbringing. Anyone who lives in the UK will know what I'm saying here. | ||
| keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 220 Registered: 2-2005 |
Well generally I have found that the majority of taxes end up funding the organization created to manage the tax not the actual area needing the money. Keith | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1147 Registered: 9-2003 |
As a member of the pro-Cummins Turbo Diesel Registry, the club members have been privvy to the advertising onslaught of the newbie biodiesel craze for sometime now. For $4k, exclusive of supplies, you get the rig to convert any vegetable oil into hi-grade diesel. You still need lye and alcohol racing fuel in order to create the reaction necessary. If you're a farmer, or construction company (or any other big bulk commercial Diesel user), then it does make sense to handle caustic lye and extremely flammable alcohol in order to make your own Diesel. As Keith stated, fast food restaurants have to pay to get the stuff taken away...you just have to go get it and handle that smelly, nasty stuff. I'm told there is a bonus: your exhaust smells like french fries and/or popcorn, LOL! I think the current projected cost per gallon of bio-diesel is on the order of $0.70-$0.80. That is the manufacturer(s) claims, and has not yet been corroborated by club members. FWIW, you can burn just about any type of oil in a diesel including kerosene, motor oil and vegetable oil, as long as it's clean and free of water or other contaminants. Unless you have the proper pump lubricants and other additives (algaecides, cleaning agents, anti-gelling agents, etc.), however, you will be going thru pumps and injectors like crazy. Plus, fuel pressure, economy, complete combustion, etc. suffer unless there's hi-grade #2 oil in there. My FI pump is about $3k, injectors about $1k, and the motor is $16k for a short block(!!!). I don't think I'll be F'n with the fuel in that 300kmi MTBO Cummins anytime soon...a wrecked motor and/or fuel system on a $50k truck with warantee coverage DENIED due to improper fuel is not my idea of fun! While I did get a great deal on my truck (Cost plus $2k cash back and 0% finance for 48mos.), the doubling/tripling of fuel coupled with the nearly $7k premium to get the Cummins ISB HPCR Diesel option has made my return on investment a joke. While this is still the only way to get a full size, 6 passenger 4WD truck with a 11,000# towing capacity with enough room in the bed to carry full size sheets of plywood and sheetrock, a Harley, or other toys AND still get better than 10MPG (17 to 19MPG on avg. for a 4Ton flying brick is, comparatively, damn good!), my one-time bargain has become an albatross around my neck. These prices are killing the American auto industry which only survives because of truck and SUV sales. (Message edited by kmh364 on October 25, 2005) | ||
| alembic76407
Advanced Member Username: alembic76407 Post Number: 399 Registered: 5-2002 |
Gas hit $1.99 a gallon today and Diesel dropped to $2.32 Oklahoma is a great place to be poor David T (TLO) | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1148 Registered: 9-2003 |
David T., You lucky SOB, LOL! It sure is good to be an Okie! I just filled up...best price $2.64 for Hess Diesel in Elizabeth, NJ (Outside of Newark Liberty Int'l Airport on Rtes. 1/9). Another $84 in the tank! Just call it the "Black Gold", LOL! I never thought I'd see the day where I thought $2/gal for fuel was a great price! | ||
| bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 872 Registered: 11-2003 |
I've noticed that gimmick of selling gas by the litre on visits to Ireland. They trick us into thinking it's not so bad here, IR£0.75 per litre. Knowing us dumb tourists are not going to do the math. Jacksonville, Fl $2.81 regular unleaded. Sam (Message edited by bracheen on October 25, 2005) | ||
| gbarchus
Intermediate Member Username: gbarchus Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2002 |
Gas is about $4.30 a gallon here in Kyoto, Japan. It doesn't seem so bad nowadays. Not that it's good. My motorcycle needs high octane which is about 10% more. | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1152 Registered: 9-2003 |
While I'm certainly not in love with the $3 and up pricing of Sunoco Ultra 94, it pains me less to dump the $9-15$ or so on 3-5 gals. in my Harley than it does to spring for the 35gals of #2 fuel in my truck! As far as using the bike for work: EWR Airport is not the greatest place to use a bike for commuting (just under 100mi round trip/day), and living in the snow belt puts a damper on things as well. The 40-45MPG economy makes commuting on the bike tempting, but re-fueling every day or treading snow/sleet/freezing rain doesn't. Up until this year, I don't think I ever came close to putting $10 in the bike's tank, now I routinely exceed that. | ||
| keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 221 Registered: 2-2005 |
Well good/bad news we just dropped thirty cents today so regular unleaded is now down to $2.49. It just dawned on me that US fuel economy has been frozen (if not gone backwards) for years (yes my brain is slower that my driving speed). Filled up the 10 gallon tank on my '71' Volvo 1800E, which takes premium with octane booster (still runs best on real Hi-Test). After the fillup I calculated I'm still getting 20 mpg for mixed highway/city driving. Not bad for an old 4 banger. Keith |
