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0vid
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Username: 0vid

Post Number: 93
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post

seeing the John Judge superwound ads again on ebay....got me thinking......You've seen the ad, I've seen the ad.... heck, I saw the ads when the came out in the 70s....I didn't know then and don't know now. So who is John Judge and who did he play with? I always assumed he was someone with some noteworthy chops to be in a ad like that (with a bass like that),... I am not an imbecile in music personalities and histories of bands etc, but i suppose it's time to find out who John Judge is. Anyone?
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 282
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post

See this link on the same subject:

http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/6424.html
0vid
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Username: 0vid

Post Number: 95
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post

read that thread before, so no one knows any of his music ?
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1512
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post

Isn't that Christians (Speicky)bass, Peggy?
Looks like it to me.

Olie
bracheen
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Username: bracheen

Post Number: 1247
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post

Yes, that's Peggy. I remember reading something about him being currently connected to a recording studio in NC, I think. I don't remember where I saw that but there was a website link. I believe his fame was limited to a specific geographical area somewhere in or around New Jersey. Local band with a local following kind of thing.

Sam
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 830
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post

Yep, he's the engineer at a studio in the NC mountains.

Keith
senmen
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Username: senmen

Post Number: 681
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post

Guys,
of course this IS Christians Peggy, the one and only.
Attached plse see a pic from some time ago where Christian had
allowed me to lay my hands on her....
A great bass.....

Oliver (Spyderman)
rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 682
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:31 pm:   Edit Post

That Bass has too much history and notoriety to be renamed "Peggy". It will always have an association with John Judge as HIS Bass. It may change owners hundreds of times, but who's Bass it really is will always remain the same. Like Stanley's "Brown Bass" or Jaco's "Bass of Doom", that's too recognizable as the "John Judge Bass".

His design, his Bass - simple as that regardless of who it's current owner is.

I apologize for appearing to take such exception to someone calling the John Judge Bass "Peggy". I just find it a little insulting to it's history and designer.

Rami
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5407
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post

As mentioned above, there have been several threads on the subject. I've met him several times in the last year as my band played a number of gigs at a restaurant/bar that he liked to visit. In fact, he has emailed several pictures that I've been intending to post here for you.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5410
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post

Here are pictures John sent to me, and for which he has given me permission to post here.



John told me several stories; but we always talked while I was setting up my rig and getting ready to start the first set, so I can't really remember most of what he told me.

John apparently hung out with Entwhistle a lot when they were on the same tour and developed a close relationship. According to John, his name is on this next ad on the recommendation of Entwhistle.



This next one was backstage at Madison Square Garden.



More pics of a nice Alembic.



One of the bands that John played with was Rick Derringer; I can't remember the others. Here he is with Rick.

rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 683
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post

I don't mean to minimize his acheivements, but often people ask who John Judge is, in part BECAUSE of that Bass. It's become a sort of Alembic icon. The "John Judge Bass". I truly regret not buying it when I had the chance and the means. I'm willing to trade any of my custom Alembics for it.

Rami

(Message edited by rami on August 11, 2007)
chuck
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Username: chuck

Post Number: 180
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:27 pm:   Edit Post

Very nice presentation Dave.

Chuck
senmen
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Username: senmen

Post Number: 682
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 2:00 am:   Edit Post

Dave,
many thanks for posting these treasures.
It is really a great bass and I really appreciate that I had the chance to play it some time ago.
Did John Judge tell you in any way why he had given this special bass away?

Oliver (Spyderman)

(Message edited by senmen on August 12, 2007)
bracheen
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Username: bracheen

Post Number: 1251
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 5:35 am:   Edit Post

Dave, thanks for sharing those photos and thanks to John for providing them. There has been much written about the John Judge Bass and next to nothing for the man himself. Excellent

Sam
0vid
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Username: 0vid

Post Number: 96
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the illumination Dave. Mystery solved!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5411
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 2:46 pm:   Edit Post

Oliver, if he did say anything about it, I don't remember. My band would get to the bar, set up, and then play for three hours; so when he was there he would come up and tell me all these stories while I was setting up. They were great stories and I wish we were just sitting around a table; so although I was listening to and enjoying all that he was telling me, I was also focused on getting my rig set up. Usually the drummer and guitar player were waiting on me to finish so we could start playing.

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