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lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3357
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post

Like it says, tonight I am very proud to be an American.

Bill, tgo
jseitang
Advanced Member
Username: jseitang

Post Number: 243
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post

i am too.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2077
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post

I would ask why, but that would lead this thread further in an inappropriate direction.
thebass
Advanced Member
Username: thebass

Post Number: 249
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post

Congratulations from Germany. I guess Obama would have won in Europe too. I never saw election parties for a US president in germany before. I hope he will be able to fulfill all the huge expectations.
edwin
Advanced Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 361
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post

If for no other reason (of which there are many),
America has passed a milestone on the path away from her racist history. This truly a cause for celebration!

Edwin
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2099
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post

for the second time
:our long national nightmare is final over!:

i got a kick out of the impromptu party at the white house gates!====

dont go away sad george-JUST GO AWAY!
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2100
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post

I wanted to mention- although i voted democratic
i thought mccains concession speech was a totally class act by a great american.
the only person who could withstand that kind of torture is bill panzer trying to decide if he should buy another guitar or three...lol
bigyouth
Intermediate Member
Username: bigyouth

Post Number: 129
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post

i'm not american,but i'm happy for the American people
Great great moments(sorry for my english)
dnburgess
Senior Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 576
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post

Regardless of political persuasion I think all Americans can be proud of the election. America is such a paradox.

Well done guys and gals!!
white_cloud
Senior Member
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 509
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 2:37 am:   Edit Post

I truly wish Obama well in undertaking the hardest of jobs.

Being a realist, and political cynic (lets face it they all lie, dont they?)its hard to be swept along by the furore but I genuiniely see Obama as the best option for the US.

I feel it is more of a massive victory over the totally unacceptable rascist, bigoted attitudes that must be eradicated than any political new dawn or direction - but that is good enough for me and a worthwhile victory in itself at this time in history!

John.
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 616
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:04 am:   Edit Post

I can only say it is great to see a younger person in office, I know with age comes wisdom but sometimes a bit of naivity can produce great ideas.
Well done to all you Obama supporters

I guess the global economic slump has had a bit of a boost in the last 24 hours
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 590
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post

I agree Terry,
I'm also very happy about California's prop 2 passing.
glocke
Senior Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 485
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:07 am:   Edit Post

Well, I hate to get sucked into a politcal thread on this forum of all places, but all I can say is it seems that alot of people have high, and (possibly unrealistic) expectations of what Obama can achieve in the next four years. I hope there is not too much disapointment...

I wish the guy luck, he will need it. He's inheriting many problems.
pas
Intermediate Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 132
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:32 am:   Edit Post

You guys couldn't leave it alone, eh?

I guess it's now official...I'm living in a country with a preponderance of Socialists. Alembic basses for everyone, eh? After all, it's "spread the wealth" time right?

To paraphrase Zell Miller...I didn't leave my country, my country left me.

And as Abraham Lincoln once remarked regarding a supporter seeking government patronage, "too many pigs for the tits."

I've got news for all you jubilant folks - if the messiah fails to pick up the tab on your new Series IIs, I can't help ya...my taxes are about to be doubled...sigh...
glocke
Senior Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 486
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:45 am:   Edit Post

Dave, maybe this thread should be locked before someone has anueryism????
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 919
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:54 am:   Edit Post

Some topics are better left untouched....especially in places that are supposed to be friendly. I don't share the same political views with the majority of posters on this forum and I certainly don't come to the forum to read political opinion.

Politics sucks. They're all liars and thieves.
spose
Advanced Member
Username: spose

Post Number: 204
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:37 am:   Edit Post

I like carrots :-)
ajdover
Senior Member
Username: ajdover

Post Number: 671
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:43 am:   Edit Post

Speaking only for myself, I've always been proud to be an American, whether it's around election time or not.

Alan
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2078
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:52 am:   Edit Post

The resulting direction of this thread were to be expected by any intelligent person and it never should have been started, at least not on the Alembic boards.
pas
Intermediate Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 133
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:57 am:   Edit Post

Ah, wait...this just in...

As part of his 1st legislative initiative, Mr. Obama will be confiscating all Alembics from those who own more than one, in order to "spread the wealth."
phylo
Member
Username: phylo

Post Number: 87
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post

Personal Quote: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity...
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 617
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:40 am:   Edit Post

You know I tried to keep it neutral but it is sliding down the opinion slope.
As you said glocke..davehouck will be chiming in pretty soon
hydrargyrum
Advanced Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 395
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post

. . . (the sound of distant wind blowing across a vast expanse) . . .

I love this forum, and I love its members (in a strictly platonic way, of course). Families fight, families make up. We will get along again tomorrow when tensions are less high.

Anyone heard any new good music lately? I have been enjoying garage a trois:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnYe9ZIp7Pg
eligilam
Intermediate Member
Username: eligilam

Post Number: 136
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post

I'm just glad we finally have the approval of the Europeans. Thanks, Big O!
hydrargyrum
Advanced Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 396
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:21 am:   Edit Post

This thread needs more of Oolong, the balancing rabbit.

Oolong
jet_powers
Advanced Member
Username: jet_powers

Post Number: 391
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

"Obama will be confiscating all Alembics"

Good thing I have shelters for my other ones...

-JP
new2alembic
Member
Username: new2alembic

Post Number: 90
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

Miscellaneous
Free for all area - talk amongst yourselves. I have noticed a few tempers flaring here. As it states above and on the link to this section, “free for all area.” Paul (Pas) you probably think this is a Socialist area of the forum because it says free for all…lol. I believe it is okay for everyone to express their views, but we should be able to respectfully disagree. If you don’t share Bill’s sentiments, that’s okay. He started the thread and had every right to do so. I don’t see where anyone turned this into a political debate until you began your sarcasm. Many of us will never meet face to face. So, the miscellaneous area is where we get the chance to chat about all topics, including and excluding Alembics. I come from a long line of conservative Republicans; Kentucky overwhelmingly voted for McCain. I always thought of him as too liberal personally. However, I am not going to attack Bill or other members of this family just because I disagree with their politics. With all that said, GW has sent us to hell in a hand basket. McCain did not prove his point to me that he could bring about any change. He threw every piece of garbage out there to try to get something to stick. It backfired on him. Instead of setting up a platform and selling us right minded thinkers (tongue in cheek Bill) on it, he attacked his opponent with a bunch of blanks. My advice to McCain would be: don’t tell us how bad this guy is; tell us how good you are. He just didn’t deliver. I think we can all do a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking at this point. But, I am willing to give this guy a chance. I am poorer now than I was 8 years ago. I think we can all agree this is going be a very tough assignment for any President. We have discussed the economy, life, death, and human interests…why not a little political banter?
Carl
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2101
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

America spoke clearly and concisely, what was going on had to stop. i doubt anyone thinks obama is the messiah as pas calls our president to be.
i thought one of the more interesting things i saw last night were sore losing republicans at mccains speech. mention obama and boos rang out. at the obama speech a mention of mccain brought almost no response. The republicans can thank bush for one thing. he helped destroy the party as we know it. The only category mccain carried was voters over 65.
As far a socialism and obama are concerned. when the top 1% of the country grew their wealth over the last 8 yrs and the rest of us went backwards and/or lost our jobs,saw our quality of life retreat,saw democracy reduced,saw our standing in the world decimated, then something is wrong with the direction we were headed in.
pas you make your living as an investor. if your making so much money that you MAY end up paying more in taxes to say improve education, improve the infrastructure, improve health care for those who have no access to it, to give others the access to the things you have. I dont see it as a bad thing.
Spreading the wealth? not necessarily. spreading the dream - definitely.
The problem as i see it is that the republicans tried to tie socialism to communism and that was a fear based move to create votes. It didnt work
If i end up having to pay more taxes. So be it
the difference between republicans and democrats is simple. democrats tax and spend-republicans borrow and spend. this is why our national debt has doubled to 10 trillion in the last 4 yrs after being left a 5 trillion dollar surplus 8 years ago. So now we are in debt to other countries like China.
The one person who worked hardest for Obama was none other than george bush!
finally inebtitude has been rewarded.
if you think this isnt a democracy anymore i feel sorry for you and all the other boneheads who dont get it, never did and never will. its not about YOU its not about ME its about US
as they said in star trek- sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few
robinc
Intermediate Member
Username: robinc

Post Number: 101
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

bravo
new2alembic
Member
Username: new2alembic

Post Number: 91
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

Ouch Jeff. I try not to be a bonehead. I didn't boo 'That One' at McCain's speech. My hat is off to Mr. Obama for a well run campaign. I agree that we can thank GW for the Republican defeats nationwide. Yes the GOP has gotten greedy and fat lately off the backs of others. Corporate welfare is still welfare. Don't let me get started on Halliburton or Exxon-Mobil. I want my money back!

Carl

Carl
3rd_ray
Intermediate Member
Username: 3rd_ray

Post Number: 108
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

I'm better off now than I was 8 years ago and the government had nothing to do with it except for staying out of my way. I don't buy the hype around Obama. If he brings people together then more power to him, but until I see that, he's just another politician who played the game and won. If he makes people feel better about themselves, that's fine too. But we'll see how people feel a few years down the road when nothing really changes. The rich will still be rich, the poor will still be poor, and we'll see how many of us still have jobs. Reality trumps nuance.

Mike
tubeperson
Member
Username: tubeperson

Post Number: 55
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post

Well said New2 and Flax. You just engaged in a thoughtful and respectful discourse. This is really what is missing nowadays. People can disagree but should't take it so personally. As far as those at McCain's rally, booig Obama, don't forget the Dems acting likewise for Gore and Kerry. They booed as well. Why does one look at the other side's house before cleaning their own? All political people are guilty of overemotional cheering and booing. We need to get back to the thoughtful exchange of ideas. What about the extreme left or right right that have used the radio or the internet to wish death to those who oppose their views. This disturbes me more than anything else. I'm a fiscal conseravtive, and social issue moderate, but I appreciate that so many new voters accepted the responsibility to vote. I hope this is not just a one shot deal; our vote is by far the most precious thing we get as citizens. My feeling is that Obama is extremely bright, I just disagree on his approach to many matters. That does not mean the issues he raises are not relevant, it's more a matter of do you use Tylenol, aspirin or a prescription to cure your headache? I also own a small business, and know that you cannot build a business from the bottom up, because there are only so much in resources you have. My only hope in continues and is not connected to who is running. Finally, I prefer to share wealth with those who at least attempt to contribute to society in some fashion rather than just expect the governmnent to subsidize them. When you get something for free, you do not appreciate is as much as when you pay for it. There is no constitutional right to a big screen TV or an Alembic, much as we all would agree on the latter. Now I'll go back to my Alembics, and the other toys. May America prosper and find ways to advance our freedom and lifestyles!
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3358
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post

I didn't start this thread as a political statement. Notice, my original post had no partisan content. Rather, after the problems with vote counting that went on in 2000 and 2004, and all the rhetoric of the past two years of campaigning, it was good to see a lot of people come out and vote and have their votes counted, regardless of who won. The thing I am proud of is the process, not necessarily the outcome. (I'm not complaining about the outcome either, it is just irrelevant to the point I was trying to make). I'm especially proud of the advances this country has made - from the abomination of slavery all the way to the reality that a person of color can be elected by popular vote to the highest position in the land - all in about 150 years. That's demonstrable evidence that the system can work. For that I am proud. That's enough for me, at least until January 20th.

Bill, tgo
glocke
Senior Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 487
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post

hmmm...

Can we talk about pornos instead??? or ganja?
funkyjazzjunky
Advanced Member
Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 248
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post

I am very proud and blessed to be an American.

I am especially proud today

Since this is a Miscellaneous section of the site and since the stated rules do not prohibit political speech, we can talk about whatever subject we wish. That is the benefit of living in a free country.

(Message edited by FunkyJazzJunky on November 05, 2008)
pas
Intermediate Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 134
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post

With all due respect Bill, I believe that you DID start this thread as a political statement. I agree that your initial post had no partisan content...but the inference is undeniable. Nothing like a little plausible deniability, eh?
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3359
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post

Paul:

With all due respect, you are wrong. Those who have been around here for a while know that I don't usually pull punches. My politics are well known in these parts and I'm not hesitant to jump into the fray, respectfully and civilly, when political issues have reared their heads. I meant no inference, merely as I explained 4 posts above. If you can't, or won't accept this, perhaps you should youtube McCain's speech from last night. He comes across to me as a very honest and decent man who, at the end of the day, puts the greater good before his own personal agenda.

Bill, tgo
pas
Intermediate Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 135
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the real reason all the talking heads have such high regard for McCain today is because he lost last night. Had he won, somehow I don't think you'd be characterizing him as "a very honest and decent man, who at the end of the day, puts the greater good before his own personal agenda."

At any rate, I think this thread demonstrates why politics and religion are topics best left to other sites.
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 753
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post

Anyone in for a Pizza?
jbybj
Intermediate Member
Username: jbybj

Post Number: 185
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post

IMHO it has nothing to do with money, taxes, debt, war, fairness, the inherent nature of politics and politicians, race, age, or how good you look in a suit. What matters is that our Commander in Chief be able to string together a series of coherent words, properly pronounced, that form a recognizable paragraph, that actually MEANS SOMETHING! A trait that has been conspicuously lacking for some years now. If nothing else, our President elect can speak publicly without making me cringe, and that's enough for me..........
pace
Advanced Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 386
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post

Im proud to be an Alembican.

:-)

you guys crack me up....
I'll be looking forward to a repeat of this thread, verbatim, later on at band practice.....

PALIN
NUGENT
2012
jbybj
Intermediate Member
Username: jbybj

Post Number: 186
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the real reason all the talking heads have such high regard for McCain today is because he lost last night. Had he won, somehow I don't think you'd be characterizing him as "a very honest and decent man, who at the end of the day, puts the greater good before his own personal agenda."

Actually, his thoughtful concession speech lowered my regard for the man. Where was this person during his campaign?!? His concession speech just highlights how disingenuous his campaign was, what a tool......
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1156
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post

Just because this is the Miscellaneous section we do not have the right to talk about anything we wish. We do not own this board and are guests of the Wickershams. Moderator Dave has outlined expected behavior in the Posting Guidlines. In particular this,

"- Avoid using language that others may find offensive. Other people will find offensive, remarks that are degrading sexually, that are ethnically or racially oriented, that are patently political, or that may present some particular religious view. Many people find vulgar language to be distasteful."

While I don't see anything overly political by the OP it obviously was by other people. I feel one of the things that has kept this board civil and friendly was the lack of partisanship that has become so prevalent in the US. It is best that we keep it this way.

On a personal note I to am proud of this election. After many years of apathy and non-voting by our citizens this election has brought many people back into the process. It has always been my opinion that the only way for a democracy, in any form, to stay healthy is to have as many of its citizens as possible actively involved. This is without regard to them agreeing or disagreeing with my political stand.

Well time to get off of my soap box as the election is over and the decisions made.

Keith
alembic76407
Senior Member
Username: alembic76407

Post Number: 586
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 2:14 pm:   Edit Post

PALIN
NUGENT
2012

Ted can killem
Sara can field dress them or vice versa

now that's funny, I don't care who you are
2400wattman
Senior Member
Username: 2400wattman

Post Number: 620
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post

I always thought BOTH of them were tools. I liken them to box end wrenches with rounded off ends.
As McCain was giving his speech it reminded me of a scene from the second Godfather film. It was the one where the Cuban president was giving his resignation speech and upon his conclusion the rebels invaded the grand ballroom taking party goers prisoner.
new2alembic
Member
Username: new2alembic

Post Number: 92
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post

To the readers of my posts, I apologize. Keith, I thank you for reminding us of the posting guidelines. My comments were clearly political, in most regards, and for this I apologize to all. It is never my intention to offend anyone on this forum. So for any of you that were offended by my comments, please accept my deep and humble apology.

Carl
spose
Advanced Member
Username: spose

Post Number: 205
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post

I don't care who I offend, I'm sticking to my original statement. I LIKE CARROTS!
lately it's been those bags of baby ORGANIC carrots! these always taste better then the commercially grown carrots.

I like pizza too! :-)
ajdover
Senior Member
Username: ajdover

Post Number: 672
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:07 pm:   Edit Post

Spose,

If you like carrots, you should see the ones we have here at the New England Culinary Institute in Montpelier, Vermont. Geez, they are of industrial quality and size! I'll try and get some pics, but suffice to say you could choke a horse with them.

Alan
jbybj
Intermediate Member
Username: jbybj

Post Number: 187
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post

Carl, I'm offended by your apology, what now? ;-)

I too would like to apologize. Of all the things wrong in our world, and don't get me wrong, I still see so much that is positve, but of all that is amiss in our modern culture, the current state of "political correctness" drives me nuts. People are way too easily offended in our society. That being said, I fully understand the danger of faceless communications, like web forums and blogs, and I have been the indirect target of numerous flat out falsehoods, posted as truth, on some forum or blog. Seeing as how I respect this place, Alembic.com, so much, I never initiate any controversial threads. But when I see stuff posted, well, let's just say I went to great lengths to tone down my responses. As I often remind my boss, well yes, that's what came out of my mouth, but you should've heard what I didn't say. The problem for me is, that for the last eight years, I have, in the interest of self preservation, had to suppress an astronomical degree of frustration, anger, disillusionment, disbelief, and sadness, just to make it through every day. I don't think I realized just how much I was suppressing until last night. It's everything I can possibly do to keep from bursting joyful noise from every pore. I can only imagine this must be what it feels like to have terminal cancer go into remission. That's how big it feels, to me, right now.

So while it's true that my recent posts may not be in line with the letter of the law here, in a day or two, I'll come back down, and return to posting about Wishbasses, or how I love my set neck Epic, as much as any Series owner loves their bass. Until then, just cut me a little slack, CAUSE I'M FREAKING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always proud to be an American, not always proud of all Americans, JBY
dlbydgtl
Junior
Username: dlbydgtl

Post Number: 32
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post

Go to the custom quote generator and build your dream bass then all will be right with the world...
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 893
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 5:43 pm:   Edit Post

Look for more equipment sales.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7147
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry I'm late.

Keith, thanks for the Posting Guidelines reminder. Looks like your reminder has helped to calm things down.

For many Americans, and I gather for people in other countries as well, no matter which candidate you were hoping would win, the outcome caused a visceral emotional response. There were supporters on both sides who had an enormous amount invested emotionally in this election. At this point, it would be very easy, if unintended, to deeply hurt someone right now, as those on both the winning and losing sides are emotionally raw right now.

As moderator, and given my own past and present experience with discussion groups, and given comments made on this board and made directly to me by email from club members, I think holding this place, our little place here on the world wide web, as a refuge has significant value. This is alluded to in the posting guidelines, and I've mentioned it in a few prior posts as well. As much as I may find statements about "free speech" to be reasonable, and as much as I may find compelling the idea of sharing with and learning from our friends, the potential costs to our community here seem to me to be too great.

I do realize that, no matter which side you were on, yesterday's outcome does have many people emotionally buzzed right now; and I thus find it highly understandable that one might feel compelled to post and respond about it. That said, I would like to humbly and most respectfully request, especially in light of what some of you may have been through, that each of us pause and breath and give due consideration.

Thanks. You guys are a great group of people, and I am fortunate to share this space with you.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1945
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:41 pm:   Edit Post

I leave you kids alone for a couple of months and look what happens. LOL

Didn't this used to be a music forum.

OO
And by the way I did vote,...............BUT.... for pineapple and Canadian bacon Pizza though, not pepperoni. Pepperoni is to taxing on my stomach. And I dodged a BEER can while riding my Motorcycle to pick it up. :-)
(that should cover all the bases.)
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1946
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:41 pm:   Edit Post

Make that "BASSES" not "Bases".

(Message edited by olieoliver on November 05, 2008)
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1947
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:43 pm:   Edit Post

Adam, sounds like you've had TOO much wine and cheese cake.

OO
(Inside joke folks)
2400wattman
Senior Member
Username: 2400wattman

Post Number: 621
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:48 pm:   Edit Post

Damn Olie, that's my favorite pie. Be happy to split one with you and a dodged beer next time I'm in "BIG D"!
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1948
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:01 pm:   Edit Post

OK, How's uh...say Saturday? Maybe hit that mexican food too.

OO
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3360
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post

Olie:

I was just wondering today where you've been. Glad to see you back.

Bill, tgo
flaxattack
Senior Member
Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2104
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post

pas... did you do any work for your candidate?
or just sit back and moan whoa is me....
mccain ran a disaster of a campaign and clinging to joe the plumber(psst- he doesnt have a plumbers license btw) was the icing on the cake. he made poor judgements and thats why he isnt president elect. not to mention the one thing that didnt get mentioned- this man has a wicked bad violent temper= its documented- this isnt who i wanted in the white house-economy or no economy

bill posted a thread about how proud he is and most of us are about the democratic process and how the people finally got off their asses and spoke up-
its kinda like that scene in network where albert finney tells people to run to the window and scream out i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take this anymore

your bio says your an investor- so i am wondering if you will be complaining when the market comes back next year. but i guess you wont because you dont want to pay your fair share of taxes.

as the sea gulls said in finding nemo- mine mine mine mine mine.........

40=45yrs ago and i watched it on tv
segregation, no voting for blacks in the south
the march on selma= the black boycott of merchants
the march on washington by dr king....police dogs attacking marchers.. getting fire hosed. three voter registers murdered by the klan. medger evers
rosa parks-mlk-james meredith-one man one vote


45 later = a black man is president=
this may sound funny- but i wished i was black today so i could feel exactly what these people are feeling today= i rejoice in our success as a democratic society.
ptm1diver
New
Username: ptm1diver

Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 1:38 am:   Edit Post

Wow,

If you have friends and want to keep them, don't talk politics.

Now, lets see what develops and what happens over the next 4 years. Will taxes on all go up? Will there be another terrorist attack on US soil? Will our 2nd amendment rights be taken from us? Will the sky begin to fall? Will Garcia return from the "Dead" to play one last Greatful Dead concert. Will gasoline be less than $2.00 again? Will I find a great deal on a used Stanley Clark bass? Will my athletes feet finally heal up? Will the government impose an exotic woods tax on my new Alembic guitar? Will I still have a job in 6 months? Will I finish my "Will" before I die? Will.......?

Who knows, the Shadow knows......

Have a great day one and all and laugh.

Paul
ulf
Junior
Username: ulf

Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 2:24 am:   Edit Post

Congratulations from Germany to all people in the States!
And for next president: Stanley Clarke.
That is my favorite
;-)
Everything is possible....
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1493
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 2:56 am:   Edit Post

"Power To The People" .........is what this election was all about & the People Won this one!
georgie_boy
Senior Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 563
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 5:12 am:   Edit Post

Not before time Keavin!
Let's all try and make this world a better place!
If he gets it wrong, then send him over here to the UK to try and sort out the mess here.

Wish I was an American.

George
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3361
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 7:10 am:   Edit Post

Flax:

You wrote: "i wished i was black today so i could feel exactly what these people are feeling today= i rejoice in our success as a democratic society."

This got me thinking ... when (if ever) will we get a Jewish president! (oy vey!)

Bill, tgo
hydrargyrum
Advanced Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 397
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post

Are you Jewish Bill? My wife, and consequently my son, are both Jewish. (I ask just out of curiosity, I'm not trying to throw religion into a political thread on a forum where both are banned). I guess we had a shot at a Jewish VP with Lieberman, but we all know how that ended.

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