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mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1193
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post

Indeed - the mock up tailpiece is the Dragon Wing tailpiece and it matches the Dragon Wing body.

I'll have my mom email you separately on the quote for the replica bass.

(Message edited by mica on October 29, 2003)
dreamer
Junior
Username: dreamer

Post Number: 22
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post

I think that you should have some type of original tailpiece. Roger, you and everyone else have thought too long and hard to have an original product and I think you shouldn't have a standard bar or bird. Having said that I like the Dragon Wing tailpiece, but I imagine it with a hook on each end like the headstock "claw". With the strings and the claws on each end and a curve matching the body, it would look like a claw or foot...appropriate for a dragon.

-David
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 158
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post

I've decided that the proposed tailpiece isn't for me (sorry Mica). I find that when I look at the bass with the proposed one on it, I'm looking at the tailpiece, not at the bass. The bird one blends in and doesn't draw my eye.

Unless any other ideas come to light, I think I'm going to go with what I originally wanted - the bird tailpiece (standard size). I don't like the half moon or bar tailpieces, so they're out.

Mica - did you get chance to think about "Roger's Layout III" for the controls?
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 692
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 6:40 am:   Edit Post

Well ...to complicate the things a little.
What about a tailpiece in the shape of a "crescending" moon. I know Alembic has a "moon" tailpiece but (***sigh***) I mean this ")". Not 1 side straight and the other curved but BOTH curved, the shap following more or less the border of the bass, like ...well ...euh ....a crescending moon erreuh ...well this ")".

Paul the bad one
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 160
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 6:45 am:   Edit Post

That is the only other idea I've had come into my head as well Paul. Is that possible Mica?
rockandroller
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Username: rockandroller

Post Number: 66
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post

WOW... its a friggin masterpiece, even without a tailpiece! Personally, I'm leaning towards

1) A larger bird
2) Dragon tailpiece
3) NO tailpiece! strings through the body at very low angle, terminating in custom string ferrules angled in the end of the body (not through to the back, just angled "through" the top into the end, recessed with a very slight dip so you cant see them from the top...)

It wouldnt be "quick-change" string changes (you'd have to pull the string through) but still.... Whoaaaaaah! eh? Nudge Nudge!!

Its gonna be a beauty no matter how the hardware shakes out!

rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 162
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 1:01 am:   Edit Post

Yet another masterpiece from Roger at THG Knobs!



Please ignore the grey reflections on each knob in the picture, they aren't two-tier.

After much too-ing and fro-ing via e-mail with Roger, this is the design we arrived at for the Dragon's Wing knobs.

They are a flame maple body with a snakewood cap. The gold stripes and dots are 22 carat gold.

These will be winging their way to Mica in the next couple of days.

I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank Roger for his endless patience with my endless questions, and also for creating these little beauties!

Cheers!

Rog
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1210
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post

Your idea of Roger's III layout is possible.

Looking forward to seeing those cool knobs in person.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1216
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post

Further to our conversation and emails, here's the layout for the controls you requested:

Roger's III

Just give me the final yes or no on the layout and we'll get the custom harness wired.
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 164
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry Mica, that's not quite correct - but it is close. It just needs the pan and the bridge filter knobs swapping with each other.
bob
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Username: bob

Post Number: 77
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post

Yep, my guess is that Mica just made a mistake in labelling, because I can't believe she'd allow you to have what's diagrammed here (without a lot of discussion...). I looked at it the first time and it just didn't make sense in terms of usability, but swapping those two makes it clear.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1218
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post

This time for sure:

Roger IV

And it's exactly why these pictures are so darned useful. It's much better to discover now.
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 165
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post

That's the one! Thanks Mica. And yes - it's a lot cheaper for you to do these pictures than an awful lot of wiring that turns out to be wrong too!!!
stoney
Advanced Member
Username: stoney

Post Number: 244
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post

To Roger at THG....nice, really really nice work on these knobs.

To Rog: When this is all said and done are you actually going to take this bass out of your house without armed guards???
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 728
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post

Stoney, I think Rog is going to buy some nylon stockings ....to put on his bass LOL

Paul the bad one

shhhh - Yes PTGO I KNOW there must be something between me and nylon stockings

(Message edited by palembic on November 12, 2003)
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1228
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post

Roger and I have decided to let the tailpiece have a break until the final assembly. After the pickups and bridge and knobs are installed, I'll place the candidates in place for photos and then Roger can decide what suits him best.

Got the knobs - they look great!
groovelines
Intermediate Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 128
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 4:44 am:   Edit Post

(psssst, hey Paul, actually it's better if there is NOTHING between you and your stockings :-) )

stoney
Advanced Member
Username: stoney

Post Number: 257
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

Hey, what's up with the bass????
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 162
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post

Hey Stoney,
all ok mate?
I also asked Roger last week about the Dragon.
Seems that there are no news yet.
I am also so eager to see more of this great
instrument.....

Oliver (Spyderman)
stoney
Advanced Member
Username: stoney

Post Number: 259
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 9:24 am:   Edit Post

Hey there Oliver.
All is well, thanks. Have a great New year. Are you giggin' on New Year's Eve? I'm just hanging around with some friends, my wife, Brown Bass, Acme x 10 and my EA iAmP800 (400 watts into 1x10...imagine that)

stoney
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 163
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Stoney,
all ok on my side.
No we will have some friends tomorrow here to party into the new year.
BTW do you have Johns "The Rock" CD?
I just received a copy and I am suprised about this. It is really great. OK, half of the songs are not written by John and the CD sounds very 80ies like, but there is some really great bass playing of John on it......

Oliver (Spyderman)
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1352
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

Rog's bass is in the setup room now. Mike's making the tailpieces this week for a test fitting (sitting on top of the bass for pics) so we can decide with Roger what the best shape will be.
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 177
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 2:12 am:   Edit Post

If you would like to proceed to this month's featured custom, there is something you might just be interested in seeing...

http://www.alembic.com/info/featured_custom.html
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 872
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:30 am:   Edit Post

Com'on people ...there is nothing to see here anymore. Dino ...late again ...close the door behind you when you leave, we go to the Featured Custom department, Brother Roger is paying cigars and a beer!!!

Paul the bad one
dean_m
Advanced Member
Username: dean_m

Post Number: 254
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:25 am:   Edit Post

Sorry Paul,
I was sleeping off a rough weekend of work. Better late than never though.

Roger, all I can say is "Oh My". This is truely a work of art. The elves at Alembic succeeded once again to bring your dreams to reality. That really is a gift!!!!
Chimay and cigars all around!!!!

Oops, forgot to close the door.....
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 875
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post

Rough weekend eeeeh ...
C'mon brother Paul the fake 1.
Tell me all about it!
Don't bother the others they all went to see that Rog-guitar-dragon-thing!

Paul the bad one
dreamer
Junior
Username: dreamer

Post Number: 28
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 8:20 am:   Edit Post

Roger,

I just saw your bass on Superbass. Are you selling it or has another one been made? It's still a great looking bass. I just wish I could afford it. Dreaming...
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 487
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post

Dreamer,

You missed this thread: Dragon Wing II

They made THREE dragon wings, Rog got the "deluxe" custom one with the dragon FB inlay, Superbass Steve Frank got the "mid-spec" one, and Bass Central got the "budget" one (Spider Ollie bought it). You'll notice I used quote marks because there is no such thing as a substandard or low-budget Alembic, just varying degreees of expensive, more expensive, and unbelievably expensive.

Cheers

Kevin
susan
Moderator
Username: susan

Post Number: 64
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post

Update on Dragon Wings

The UK distributor just picked up Dragon # IV, a Deluxe Quilted Maple front and back. I hear he sold it while it was under construction. The new owner also has Spyders in his collection as well.

Beaver at Bass Central has reordered a Dragon for store stock, look for it maybe by the end of September.

-susan
ox_junior
Intermediate Member
Username: ox_junior

Post Number: 149
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post

Looks like the Dragon Wing design is going to be a big hit!!! I see a limited edition run in the future....

Oxnac (a la Carson's Carnac)
hollis
Advanced Member
Username: hollis

Post Number: 365
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post

He sees a limited edition in the future...

Ed McMannhollis
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 497
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 5:41 am:   Edit Post

I forgot about the British one with the maple top...any chance of getting you guys to post some pix of the thing?
rogertvr
Advanced Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 257
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post

Seems these Dragons are breeding ;-)
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 515
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe so, but yours will be tough to top, Mate!
rogertvr
Advanced Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 258
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 9:08 am:   Edit Post

I'm sure someone will at some point!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 522
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 5:31 am:   Edit Post

Hmmmmm...I wonder what one of these babies would look like as a scaled down 6-string guitar? LOL!
rogertvr
Advanced Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 259
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 8:07 am:   Edit Post

Pretty smart I would have thought!
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 532
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

Click below to see the Quilt Maple version:


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