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susan
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Username: susan

Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 3:04 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Roger,

Now that Mica has posted the wood in the Wood Bank section, I need to tell you which is my favorite for this project.
Susan's Picks

#1 is 3123 Mask

#2 is 3124 Ebb & Flow

These two pieces lend themselves to the unusual body shape of the Dragons Wing. After all it doesn't matter how beautiful the piece of wood is if in order to make the instrument the nicest part becomes waste material ( don't cry Wayne)

Susan
rogertvr
Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 92
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post

Hi Susan,

I like the look of 3123 Mask - strangely enough, I chose that one in the first place when I saw them on Friday for the first time.

I think maybe we should experiment with the orientation with the wood and see how it looks. I really like the way it has colour change and different shapes and grains in it.

You could always make a couple of clocks out of the waste material - one for Wayne and one for me!

Thanks for everything so far!

Rog
susan
Junior
Username: susan

Post Number: 11
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post

Roger-

Unfortunately there is not much we can do in the way of orientation of the wood. This body shape "Dragon Wing" as in the "Exploiter" body requires such a wide piece of lumber that the options become limited as to what choice of wood can be used as well as how it can be laid out. We will use our best judgement to take advantage of the woods most interesting grain patterns in respect to the body shape.

So at this point I have the neck in the press and would like to get onto the business of constructing the body next week. Just trust that it will be awesome.

Susan
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 101
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for your reply Susan.

I was just looking at all potential options - if they're not possible, I'm quite happy to be lead by what you say and I trust you implicitly!

Cheers,

Rog
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1125
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:24 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the result of the judgement:

front

back - sorry it's blurry

peghead

None of the additional carving details are added at this point (the "bevels" of the body or peghead), but I think you tell this is really shaping up nicely.
ganque
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Username: ganque

Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post

i'm proboly never going to even se this bass in person... but i bet i'm anticipating it as much as anyone else. this looks like its going to be great. congrats roger, its a winner!!!
~adam
senmen
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Username: senmen

Post Number: 63
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post

Roger,

I start to get jealous...

Many greetings from two friends,
Spyder 4 and Spyder 8

Oliver Baumann
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 107
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post

Wow!! Thanks for posting the pics Mica, I am especially pleased with the way that the grain in the wood fits with the shape of the body.

I'm somewhat stunned to be honest and lost for words!!

Thanks for everyone's kind sentiments so far :-)

Rog
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 608
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 6:35 am:   Edit Post

...

Paul the bad one

(these posts are easy ...I can stay "speechless" LOL)
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1152
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post

Now the Dragon Wing has enough spray to start in on the inlay. Here's some pictures with finish:

dw1

dw2

dw3

I'll take lots of nice pictures of the inlay process.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 1153
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post

The first part of the inlay to decide is the placement of the inlaid logo. This logo was prepared for another bass and is used for placement only:

logo 1
Position 1

logo 2
Position 2

logo 3
Position 3

Do you have a preference, Roger, or shall we decide the orientation?
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 128
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post

I've been off work today (unwell) and won't be in tomorrow either (can't see this clearing up overnight). So I just thought I'd check in here on my way to bed - it's STUNNING, there is no other word for it! Thanks so much for the pics, Mica!!!!!!!!

Question for you Mica - on the first picture of the bass you've posted, in the bottom left hand corner of the body there appears to be a red mark - what's that?

Position 1 for the logo please!
senmen
Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Rog,
this one will become a classic!

Really jelous man!
Take care
Oliver
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 668
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post

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valvil
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Username: valvil

Post Number: 213
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   Edit Post

Roger,

I'm not sure why that spot in the picture came out so red; there is no spot on the bass itself, i just doublechecked; the third picture is more indicative of what the bass looks like. I think the lighting in the hall Mica took the picture in might have something to do with it.

The bass looks amazing in person, however good, pictures simply don't do it justice. Now it's down to the inlays, and then...it can fly home.

Valentino
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1158
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 4:12 pm:   Edit Post

I think the spot you're referring to is a reflection of me and my camera.

Will give James the instructions on the logo placement and he'll get that finished in a day or two.

Hope you're feeling better soon.
kenbass4
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Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post

Roger,

I was at the Alembic factory on Friday, and Valentino showed me your bass...needless to say it was breathtaking in person! He heald it up like he wanted me to take it, but I was afraid that would be when fate would strike me and make me drop it :-0
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 129
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:20 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the info folks! I'm not feeling any better but I thought I'd drop in here and cheer myself up :-)

Ken - you should have taken the opportunity to hold it - you'll probably never get the chance again.

Every time I look at those pictures I see something else in the wood grain that just adds to the character - it's phenomenal!

As Roger at THG is building knobs for it, when will they be required by?

Cheers!

Rog
senmen
Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 98
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 4:50 am:   Edit Post

Rog,
I think you are not able to sleep well at night
(wet dreams? :-) )
I hope that I will see the Dragon one day in reality during our european Alembic meeting.

Take care
Oliver
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 130
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:34 am:   Edit Post

There's a good chance of you seeing it Oliver!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1162
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post

We won't need the knobs for at least a month, we're just getting started on the fingerboard inlay.
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 132
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post

That's great Mica, thanks for letting me know!
stoney
Advanced Member
Username: stoney

Post Number: 234
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post

Rog,
That bass is lookin' SWEEEEET!

Regards,
Stoney
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1167
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post

Got your email today about control layout. Here's the mock up Dragon Wing with the standard control layout:

standard layout

I think I understood from your email that you want to change the pan and volume positions:
customlayout

Is my understanding correct?

Also, how do you like the proposed tailpiece shape?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1169
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   Edit Post

I reread your email, now I think this is what you were askign about:

Roger layout II

I'll check with my dad to see if there is adequate room to put a filter where the pan control usually is.
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 143
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post

Phew - you have been busy whilst I've been in the pub, Mica!

Roger's Layout II is what I was trying to describe. However, can you tell me if Roger's Layout and / or Roger's Layout II is possible please Mica? Then I will choose which layout I would like - I can see the benefits of all three. At least if I have a choice, then I can have a think - when do I need to make up my mind by?

Tailpiece - let me have a think about please. I'll let you know tomorrow.

Cheers,

Rog
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 144
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 9:39 am:   Edit Post

I can't make up my mind about the suggested tailpiece shape. Would it be possible Mica for you to take a picture of the DW with a brass bird tailpiece in situ please, so that I have something to compare the suggested one against?

Thanks!

Rog
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 674
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe the "old" "moustache" tailpiece???

(Message edited by palembic on October 23, 2003)
alembic76407
Intermediate Member
Username: alembic76407

Post Number: 198
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post

Roger, will this bass fit in your TVR with the top up, what kind of case will you get for the Buzzard, Hard shell or Anvil.

David T
PS; I still want to go for a ride in your car
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 145
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post

Nah, no way this will fit in the TVR. I'm not sure it'll fit in my other car either!!!!!

I believe Mica is sorting the case out - I've paid for one already through the dealer I ordered it through - don't know what it is though.

Next time you're in the area, I'll gladly take you out as long as it's dry. The TVR is a massive handful to drive quickly in the wet and snow and ice are a strict no-no!!!!!

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